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Posted by Dream Beamz on Feb-17-2011 18:35:

Jester Nocturnal being foreclosed on

this info was just passed down to me from a friend

Being sold March 10th on the auction block. Not that I was ever interested in going there. I dont see any tickets for sale but just make sure you dont buy any if you do see them.


http://www.pdf-archive.com/2011/02/...foreclosure.pdf


Posted by amberella06 on Feb-17-2011 18:46:

It was also talked about in this thread:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...2&forumid=43&s=


Posted by PatMcGroin on Feb-17-2011 18:52:

you know if someone with a brain bought that place they could actually make it pretty decent. the setup has always just been retarded. lets hope someone intelligent gets their hands on this property.


Posted by Donnie Gryphon on Feb-17-2011 19:54:

quote:
Originally posted by PatMcGroin
you know if someone with a brain bought that place they could actually make it pretty decent. the setup has always just been retarded. lets hope someone intelligent gets their hands on this property.


The thing is if anybody buys that place at the time being which is over $5M, is a fucking retard. The market value of the building is around $850,000. No smart investor will come in and buy a building that is seriously below what is owed on the mortgage.

As for it going to Volume, I have no idea how that is happening since the mortgage has not been paid. Unless they seriously got some dumb fuck with big bucks to come in and pay that $5M. All the people I know with money like that are no where near stupid enough to hop on an investment like that.

Nocturnal can go on pretending shit is all fine and dandy but one day the lies will catch up to them.

This isn't the first time the building was supposed to go up for auction. It was supposed to happen a couple months back but they managed to postpone it through a loophole. Let's not forget that Nocturnal is on and off of no sale lists and they were caught pouring cheap liquor in good bottles.

What's funny is I posted this in another thread and also mentioned this a couple months back, to warn the promoters that do business there because you never know what is going to happen. What really pisses me off, looking out for a promoter doing a massive party with a solid lineup, tells me to take down my post. Why? Are you worried about ticket sales now? If you are you should be. People want to party in a venue that at least looks out for their customers, not a place that charges girls for toliet paper, charges all different prices for the same drinks and scams their customers out of good liquor. Not to mention they have the worst reputation in Miami. Fuck that.

I'm keeping it real and speaking the truth, trying to look out for you event. Do the same so you don't disappoint your customers if this shit goes down on the 10th.


Posted by Donnie Gryphon on Feb-17-2011 20:18:

And still Nocturnal says this is just "RUMOR MILL". How is it rumor mill when its public documents? Still no good explanation from them, just more dancing around the subject.

If you guys want a laugh check out Nocturnals response to supposed "RUMOR MILL" lol accusations.

http://forum.talknightlife.com/view...&st=0&sk=t&sd=a


Posted by PatMcGroin on Feb-17-2011 20:24:

at some point though if no one is going to pay the $5 million the bank will have to let it go for less. just look around at the housing crisis and you'll see how it works. so hopefully sometime in the future someone can get that property for cheap (because the bank cant hold onto it forever) and then finally do something good with it.

i for one have no interest in checking out volume even for a second. with that quick of a turnaround theres no way they did anything to that place. what needs to happen is a complete remodeling. put the booth on the main floor on the 1st floor, keep the 2nd floor vip or whatever (kinda how space was before the loft), get rid of the retarded glass room, close off the terrace and move the booth to one end and make the whole damn thing symmetrically. oh and expand all the bathrooms. 2 little stalls is shit when its a big event. but nope, none of that will ever happen. so lets just stay away then huh?


Posted by Donnie Gryphon on Feb-17-2011 20:28:

quote:
Originally posted by PatMcGroin
at some point though if no one is going to pay the $5 million the bank will have to let it go for less. just look around at the housing crisis and you'll see how it works. so hopefully sometime in the future someone can get that property for cheap (because the bank cant hold onto it forever) and then finally do something good with it.

i for one have no interest in checking out volume even for a second. with that quick of a turnaround theres no way they did anything to that place. what needs to happen is a complete remodeling. put the booth on the main floor on the 1st floor, keep the 2nd floor vip or whatever (kinda how space was before the loft), get rid of the retarded glass room, close off the terrace and move the booth to one end and make the whole damn thing symmetrically. oh and expand all the bathrooms. 2 little stalls is shit when its a big event. but nope, none of that will ever happen. so lets just stay away then huh?


I understand completely. Definitely won't be anytime soon they let it go. They will try to recoup the majority of their money first.


Posted by PatMcGroin on Feb-17-2011 20:45:

it really is sad because someone could do something great with that space its just not cost effective. same shit thats been happening on south beach for years. the old art deco buildings are running down or are already run down and it costs more money to fix them up than it does to tear them down and build new. just sucks cuz you're tearing down something special. not that nocturnal is special or that it could even be torn down because of how that block is setup but the same concept applies. its always all about the money. sucks.


Posted by trancension on Feb-17-2011 21:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Donnie Gryphon
And still Nocturnal says this is just "RUMOR MILL". How is it rumor mill when its public documents? Still no good explanation from them, just more dancing around the subject.

If you guys want a laugh check out Nocturnals response to supposed "RUMOR MILL" lol accusations.

http://forum.talknightlife.com/view...&st=0&sk=t&sd=a


That Dade guy might be my new hero.

And wow, if even some of that stuff he said is true about Nocturnal mgmt, then I can't believe there are still people out there supporting that business.


Posted by Donnie Gryphon on Feb-17-2011 22:41:

quote:
Originally posted by trancension
That Dade guy might be my new hero.

And wow, if even some of that stuff he said is true about Nocturnal mgmt, then I can't believe there are still people out there supporting that business.


Dade is one the best guys in the industry. He was the boss at Shadow Lounge and a couple other ventures down here that were successful.

He used to work with Nocturnal when it first started and left for the reasons he stated.

Everything Dade has ever said or posted has been 100% true and I believe every word he says about Nocturnal.

He's a good dude


Posted by Neonbeats on Feb-17-2011 23:59:

I like their Terrace. I wonder what they are gonna do for wmc/ultra


Posted by trancension on Feb-18-2011 00:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Donnie Gryphon
Dade is one the best guys in the industry. He was the boss at Shadow Lounge and a couple other ventures down here that were successful.

He used to work with Nocturnal when it first started and left for the reasons he stated.

Everything Dade has ever said or posted has been 100% true and I believe every word he says about Nocturnal.

He's a good dude


Ya, I noticed "pod" said he always speaks the truth, and of course, "Nocturnal" hasn't even tried to deny any of what was said. In fact, I've been reading his/her tone as regrettable those incidents affected Dade, but he needs to move on. Which is of course...ya...basically admittance of guilt.


Posted by safarimaster on Feb-18-2011 02:58:

Damn! Hopefully this shit gets sorted out or I'm out $100 lol


Posted by Donnie Gryphon on Feb-18-2011 03:01:

quote:
Originally posted by safarimaster
Damn! Hopefully this shit gets sorted out or I'm out $100 lol


You'll get a refund.

Like I told teksupport, which they wanted me to remove my posts, but I really hope they took my advice and shoot for a plan B.

I would be if I knew the situation. Shit I would find a new venue all together and just move the event, NOW


Posted by Addictive Global on Feb-18-2011 03:10:

Rubbish, venue will be open folks. More to be announced soon.


Posted by PatMcGroin on Feb-18-2011 03:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Addictive Global
Rubbish, venue will be open folks. More to be announced soon.


ive always supported your events but i really hope you're full of shit. PLEASE dont host ANY events there.


Posted by trancension on Feb-18-2011 03:57:

How the hell can they stay open...I need a real-estate lawyer on these forums to explain to me how someone maintains ownership of a foreclosed property they owe 5.2million dollars on...


Posted by Addictive Global on Feb-18-2011 03:57:

quote:
Originally posted by PatMcGroin
ive always supported your events but i really hope you're full of shit. PLEASE dont host ANY events there.


Wait and see what happens Pat, then you can make a educated analysis.


Posted by Donnie Gryphon on Feb-18-2011 13:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Addictive Global
Wait and see what happens Pat, then you can make a educated analysis.


An educated analysis is the one everyone is making. They owe $5M on the mortgage, they haven't paid and the building is up for auction on March 10th. Any smart person would move their events elsewhere and not take the risk.

Sure its Nocturnal and I'm sure they'll weasel their way out of this too


Posted by Addictive Global on Feb-18-2011 14:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Donnie Gryphon
An educated analysis is the one everyone is making. They owe $5M on the mortgage, they haven't paid and the building is up for auction on March 10th. Any smart person would move their events elsewhere and not take the risk.

Sure its Nocturnal and I'm sure they'll weasel their way out of this too


You say this like you know what the actual situation is and it obvious you have no clue


Posted by Dream Beamz on Feb-18-2011 17:05:

well, all i can say is I am just a person who travels to parties from North Carolina so I have no stake in this "gang up against nocturnal" conspiracy.

What I do know is that there is a legal document that says the place will be sold on the Auction block March 10th and 5mil plus is owed.

Until I see proof that says otherwise, I am going to go with the legal document. All of these post from promoters or nocturnal that say things like "wait and see" or "you dont know the facts", they dont mean crap to me and anyone who buys a ticket to those events should understand the risk of dealing with people who are not 100% up front from the beginning.

Either show a legal document that says it will be open or really there is nothing else to say. I posted a court docket, what do you have?

for those who missed it, here is the court docket
http://www.pdf-archive.com/2011/02/...mi-foreclosure/


Posted by PatMcGroin on Feb-18-2011 17:20:

i think promoters are just trying to sweep this under the rug. its an issue they dont want to deal with. and its probably not their place to come out and say how nocturnal will be open, that should be nocturnals job but in this instance its really going to hurt any party being thrown there if they dont. no one wants anything to do with that place. its been like that for awhile and especially now with this. im not gonna waste my time with this place and a lot of potential customers feel the same way. basically the whole sweeping this issue under the rug just isnt going to fly. when you guys have an empty dance floor (if you're even allowed to be open) please dont wonder why.


Posted by Addictive Global on Feb-18-2011 17:25:

Hahaha, you guys are hilarious, no one is trying to sweep anything under any rug.

Like I said before the venue will still be there for WMC. That is all


Posted by drEamer on Feb-18-2011 17:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Addictive Global
Hahaha, you guys are hilarious, no one is trying to sweep anything under any rug.

Like I said before the venue will still be there for WMC. That is all
of course it will be there, but will it be open? looks like it wont


Posted by PatMcGroin on Feb-18-2011 17:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Addictive Global
Hahaha, you guys are hilarious, no one is trying to sweep anything under any rug.

Like I said before the venue will still be there for WMC. That is all


even if you guys are, are you too naive to realize that this entire situation is not good for anyone whos throwing a party there. first of all no one wants to go there anyway because quite frankly the place sucks. in every fucking way possible. on top of that the few people that might want to go there may just may be detoured by all this negative press. i mean its not like nocturnal or volume is the only venue throwing parties that week.


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