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Thoughts on Stutter?

Anyone tried this?

Clueless as to why there isnt an overall mix option

seems odd,

can do great stuff, its pretty brutal though, even using as a sends optons isnt quite the same a an overall mix toggle would be

AK

Re: Thoughts on Stutter?

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Originally posted by Akira_Kayosa Anyone tried this?

Tried what? The search function?

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=589136

yup sadly i keep doing that

sorry fairly new to board life never done it at all

my bad

still i just read that thread, nobody has asked this quite pressing question, if it has been overlooked its a massive fail

glitch has an output mix

Re: Thoughts on Stutter?

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Originally posted by Akira_Kayosa Clueless as to why there isnt an overall mix option seems odd, can do great stuff, its pretty brutal though, even using as a sends optons isnt quite the same a an overall mix toggle would be

As stated in the other thread, I bought it at the introductory price and it's pretty cool, but it's definitely lacking in a few areas and several of us have voiced complaints in the rather lengthy thread over at KVR. The lack of a mix option is just stupid, as is the fact that it doesn't expose any of its parameters to a host, so there's no way to automate it or assign the parameters to a controller for real-time performance. That's a huge oversight/fail IMO, particularly considering the regular price ($249!). What's worse is that Izotope chimed in on that KVR thread to say that they won't be adding these features because they don't think that they're necessary, despite compelling arguments from it user base to the contrary. If the regular price was $149 or less, I'd recommend it, but $249 is way overpriced IMO, especially when you consider that other similar products (e.g., Artillery 2, Effectrix, The Finger, Glitch) cost much less.

they kinda missed the boat on the whole electro stutter thing. I think Reaktor is way more powerful for this kind of stuff.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad I think Reaktor is way more powerful for this kind of stuff.

Agreed. Have you checked out The Finger? It's built on the Reaktor engine and is pretty fun and functional. But, yeah, you're probably right about these effects already being somewhat dated. Doesn't bother me, though - I like these kind of these toys.

Tim Exile wins again. Finger shows its middle f. hehe

Can one just buy and use the finger without having some sort of NI platform? I ask this as I know nothing of NI but have in the back of my mind that you need to already own some sort of NI platform in order to use thier products.

Also is it dongle free - I've checked the finger on thier site but it just shows 4 vids but not any text I can find about dongles or platforms.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler Can one just buy and use the finger without having some sort of NI platform? I ask this as I know nothing of NI but have in the back of my mind that you need to already own some sort of NI platform in order to use thier products. Also is it dongle free - I've checked the finger on thier site but it just shows 4 vids but not any text I can find about dongles or platforms.

The Finger works on the Reaktor engine, so you need to have either Reaktor, Kore 1/2, or the free Reaktor player. They also have a free Kore Player, but I'm not sure if The Finger works with that (but, I doubt it). None of these requires a dongle - NI uses a S/N system and their Service Center software for managing licenses, although I don't think you need to use Service Center for their freebies (i.e., the Reaktor and Kore Players).

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Originally posted by Richard Butler Can one just buy and use the finger without having some sort of NI platform? I ask this as I know nothing of NI but have in the back of my mind that you need to already own some sort of NI platform in order to use thier products. Also is it dongle free - I've checked the finger on thier site but it just shows 4 vids but not any text I can find about dongles or platforms.

Are you saying you don't have any NI products?

i will look into some of the other plugins mentioned, used glitch ofcourse, who hasnt heh

but will check the rest!

its just a shame, izotope genereally make great things, a dry/wet toggle would of been a doddle, its mainly aimed at live stuff im sure

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Originally posted by cryophonik The lack of a mix option is just stupid, as is the fact that it doesn't expose any of its parameters to a host, so there's no way to automate it or assign the parameters to a controller for real-time performance. That's a huge oversight/fail IMO, particularly considering the regular price ($249!). What's worse is that Izotope chimed in on that KVR thread to say that they won't be adding these features because they don't think that they're necessary, despite compelling arguments from it user base to the contrary. If the regular price was $149 or less, I'd recommend it, but $249 is way overpriced IMO, especially when you consider that other similar products (e.g., Artillery 2, Effectrix, The Finger, Glitch) cost much less.

Thats really veryvery bad IMO. This sort of effect is targeted mainly for live use and for being manipulable in real time... If you can't do those two things then its a completely worthless offering IMO.

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Originally posted by kitphillips Thats really veryvery bad IMO. This sort of effect is targeted mainly for live use and for being manipulable in real time... If you can't do those two things then its a completely worthless offering IMO.

It is bad, but I would *sorta* disagree that it's mainly for live use and definitely disagree that it's completely worthless. But, I do agree that the lack of those real-time MIDI features and mix control make it pretty worthless for live use. It's actually a very cool and useful/time-saving plugin for doing glitchy things (even in real-time) in the studio - it's just that adding those few features would take it to another level and I reiterate that, at $249, it's retarded that it doesn't have them. I can't believe that they are going to sell many at that price anyway - those of us who wanted it bought it during the early-bird special and it seems that a substantial number of us feel that it was too expensive even at that price ($149).

I just don't get how you're supposed to get good glitches if you can't automate the parameters... Sounds like they'll be really lifeless to me.

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