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Yamaha NS-10M with Crown XLS 202 amp or Yamaha HS50?
Which one is a better deal out of the two?
The Yamaha NS-10M with the amp?
http://nanaimo.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-...AdIdZ251151194#
Or getting a pair of new Yamaha HS50?
I talked to the owner of the yamaha's and amp and he said he is selling because of the noise of the fan from the amp. Or should I just buy the yamaha ns-10m and buy a separate amp?
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...38&referrerid=2
I use the HS50 and have massive issues with monitoring and mixing the bass end. I intend selling them and getting something bigger.
depending on what are you after NS10s have a very nice midrange, but their low end sucks just as much as HS50s, that is if lowend is what you're after. Mixes from ns10s do translate very well on a wide variety of systems but their sound is rather harsh and tiring for your ears after prolonged exposure. Do take this in the account.
In your place i would save a few more hundred and get something decent used off craigslist/ kijji or check Long and Mcquade for used stuff they do have decent deals on monitors here n' there + you can buy warranty on used speakers which is a very nice bonus. HS80s seems to be a very popular choice for money these days.
get something completely else.
well the yamaha hs80m's look like the ones i should look into getting. But in that price range the Adam a3x look like they could be of better quality. Anyone have any experience with using the adam a3x?
not sure what ur budget is. but I use the hs50m's with the hs sub and they sound spot on 
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| Originally posted by Ravist well the yamaha hs80m's look like the ones i should look into getting. But in that price range the Adam a3x look like they could be of better quality. Anyone have any experience with using the adam a3x? |
I don't care so much for how it sounds, I am more concerned on how well it translates to other systems. That is the whole reason I was interested in the Yamaha NS-10M, they sound like shit but they translate well to most systems. My ears will eventually tune in with the (shitty) monitors. Eventually as I get better, I will buy better quality monitors.
your ears wont "tune in", they will end up giving you tinnitus. buy them and regret it, i dont care - im just telling it is the worst speaker ever made and its just a hype. you know most people put paper infront of the tweeter to make it sound right? theres a reason for it. might as well get a speaker that translate well AND sound good, it is actually possible today - even for a short budget. forget about that old shitty yamaha speaker. ESPECIALLY since your making edm (i just assume as this is TA), the bass is alot more important. please dont be religious. if you absolutely need to get yamaha (because youre a fanboy, or a religious fanatic or something) at least get the HS80. but I seriously advice you to get something else. And if you are one of those who had made up your mind already I really dont see why you are making a thread about it, so please delete it if youre not willing to listen to experienced people 
edit: heres what you should get:
http://www.zzounds.com/item--JBLLSR2325P
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| Originally posted by Ravist I don't care so much for how it sounds, I am more concerned on how well it translates to other systems. That is the whole reason I was interested in the Yamaha NS-10M, they sound like shit but they translate well to most systems. My ears will eventually tune in with the (shitty) monitors. Eventually as I get better, I will buy better quality monitors. |
I was actually thinking of getting the HS80M's but I'll also look into the JBL's even though I always believed JBL were more geared towards live sound.
And by tuning I meant that one's ears becomes accustomed to monitors over a certain period of time. You eventually learn the monitors and in result work better with them.
i see what you mean, but adjusting your ears to ns10 would completely ruin your overall listening-pleasure trust me. everything will sound like you are under water after that, and with a constant high pitch screaming at you - your life would be ruined.
The HS80 could be a good option of you have a big room, but the JBLs are more flat (important) and better midrange. You should decide on a budget first really. Theres quite many options around the price of HS80 and the JBLs. forget about NS10 - they are history. Many are also happy with ADAM but i think they scream way too much for EDM. and have plastic bass.
It's all preference really. I'll go to a store and listen to both closely. I got a question then, why do so many producers have the NS-10M's in their studio? Do they have it there just for reference?
alot of old people use them because they are used to them and have worked on them forever. These people have no hearing left and need that extra treble to be able to hear hihats and shit. We do not. Some younger people also have them because they believe the hype and jumped the bandwagon. Also they might work in other types of music where the bass isnt that important but I cant seriously think of anyone wants to produce on these voluntarily. The fact that they are passive makes them even more useless. Seriously get up to date monitors man, theres so much goodness out there now. Decide for a budget first, and look for monitors 30% above your budget Give us the price and we�ll help you find a couple or three to test out in the shop. The more monitors you actually test the harder it will be to decide so try to limit yourself as much as possible before going out. I suggest as starter to test out both the JBL and HS80, you will see/hear the difference immediately, listen on vocals, synthleads etc and youll see why i recommend the JBL. HS80 has great bass though but that only works in bigger room. And just to know what your listening for try to listen to some expensive monitors too, like Focal, Dynaudio and Genelec. just to have a reference.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with the JBL's as I have found a good deal for the pair. I'm still going to take a listen to the yamaha's, dynaudio, adam, genelec, and other brands, just to get an idea of their sound. Thanks for the help Sonicboom.
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| Originally posted by sonicboom alot of old people use them because they are used to them and have worked on them forever. These people have no hearing left and need that extra treble to be able to hear hihats and shit. We do not. Some younger people also have them because they believe the hype and jumped the bandwagon. Also they might work in other types of music where the bass isnt that important but I cant seriously think of anyone wants to produce on these voluntarily. The fact that they are passive makes them even more useless. Seriously get up to date monitors man, theres so much goodness out there now. Decide for a budget first, and look for monitors 30% above your budget Give us the price and we�ll help you find a couple or three to test out in the shop. The more monitors you actually test the harder it will be to decide so try to limit yourself as much as possible before going out. I suggest as starter to test out both the JBL and HS80, you will see/hear the difference immediately, listen on vocals, synthleads etc and youll see why i recommend the JBL. HS80 has great bass though but that only works in bigger room. And just to know what your listening for try to listen to some expensive monitors too, like Focal, Dynaudio and Genelec. just to have a reference. |
no it was palm
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