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Posted by DJ Chrono on Aug-08-2002 05:01:

§ Apoptygma Berzerk §

well, they make some crazy trance but what on earth is with those vocals.

For example the tracks "Suffer in Silence" and "Until the End of the World"

now, this voice just ruins everything.. who puts male vocals like this in here? He sounds like a punk rocker

now if there were some nice female vocals, i would understand.. but this? ruins the tracks.

opinions?


Posted by ILL_FaTeD on Aug-08-2002 05:15:

Evil1

actually i believe that they are not a trance act...they're new wave or punk or industrial or something like that, and their trance tunes are done/remixed by trance artists like the classsic Kathy's Song [Ferry Corsten Remix]...btw i overheard some people with mohawks and leather and spikes (nothing against that) at tower records talking about how good they are...


Posted by DJ Chrono on Aug-08-2002 05:28:

quote:
Originally posted by ILL_FaTeD
actually i believe that they are not a trance act...they're new wave or punk or industrial or something like that, and their trance tunes are done/remixed by trance artists like the classsic Kathy's Song [Ferry Corsten Remix]...btw i overheard some people with mohawks and leather and spikes (nothing against that) at tower records talking about how good they are...


no wonder.. yeah they have a lot of good trance remixes (excluding the vocals).


Posted by Excite on Aug-08-2002 05:57:

ferry corsten's remix of kathy's song does not have any vocals..and hopefully neither will Apoptygma Berzerk - Kathy's Song (Mat Silver vs. Tony Burt Remix)


Posted by Raptor on Aug-08-2002 06:32:

they're from swedan or something can't be sure but they rock !


Posted by Endlesswave on Aug-08-2002 06:38:

They ARE an industrial band/group etc as far as I know, first time I EVER heard Kathy's song was about a few years ago when I went to this "goth" club and they were playing nothing but stuff like that (and the original apoptygma berserk - kathy's song) is REALLY good from what I remember...was going nuts to it on the dance floor. Really cool shit...also when I was at Armin in June Mark Oliver spun one of their songs but remixed because a buddy of mine recognized the vocals and was sining along, so it's not uncommon at all.


Posted by tosk_hysj on Aug-08-2002 09:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Raptor
they're from swedan or something can't be sure but they rock !


Actually, they are from Norway. One of the members (Geir) participated in the Scandinavian version of Temptation Island...


Posted by tosk_hysj on Aug-08-2002 10:26:

http://trance.nu/v3/news_show.php?id=929


Posted by mindshooter on Aug-08-2002 12:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Excite
ferry corsten's remix of kathy's song does not have any vocals..


ehhh..what about the ones in the break? Right before the melody hits it.....how could you miss those?


Posted by Porky on Aug-08-2002 12:53:

Love victoria remix



the victoria remix (aka vnv nation remix) of Kathy's song
is the best. it has both a male vocal part and a female robot vocal part, kind of like a story...




the ferry remix is the same with a faster beat, minus the male vocals..



pork


Posted by mindshooter on Aug-08-2002 13:17:

There is also a Green Court remix
I happen to have the "12 with the corsten and the green court remix... There is a commondore 64 on the cover...really cool

To bad i dont own a Turntable so i can play it


Posted by Sand Leaper on Aug-08-2002 14:04:

OK,there's a LOT of misunderstandings going on regarding APOP here,so I'll set the record straight right now:

Apoptygma Berzerk are indeed norwegian.The mastermind of the project is called Stephan Groth(He writes all the tracks and produces it all,I think the others are just perfomers on records and live shows),and he has quite a career behind him.Touring the whole of USA,playing at the Burning Man Festival in the middle of the Nevada desert,recording music videos in the same dome as the Mad Max movie was shot,getting his tunes played on porn shows on german tv,landing headfirst into the trance scene with the infamous trance remixes from Ferry,Pulsedriver and Green Court while still gaining immense amounts of cred in the metal scene:Stephan Groth has done it all.

As far as his music is concerned,Stephan Groth calls himself an EBM-artist.(He is NOT a trance artist.The remixes is what made him famous in the trance scene).This means that what he makes can be influenced by absolutely anything,be it trance,heavy metal,electro,techno etc.The core of his music however is still EBM(if not as puristic as the hardcore fans would like him to be),which is some kind of industrial sub-genre with lots of influences from other genres.Most people say this genre died out in the late 80s,but that is still open for debate.

Here are some quotes from an interview Stephan Groth did in Mutek Magazine some time ago:

"As a producer of EBM-minded music,I've been the first one to push the boundaries.And it's good that you can do that. A couple of years ago,I combined trance with EBM,and that worked out quite well.Green Court made a wicked remix,it really opened up for us(PERSONAL NOTE:I think he's mixing this one up with Ferry's),and after that we got remixed by Pulsedriver and Ferry Corsten as well,and suddenly we were standing in the middle of the trance scene,which was a good thing back then."

"For me,it was never a goal to be puristic and single-minded,I think that's pretty commercial.By experimenting musically I managed to get a whole new group of people to listen to my music,since they recognized some of the elements they were already familiar with."

"There are a lot of things that are unique with APOP.The most important thing for me was the vocals,and I've always retained those.The choruses are strict and haven't changed much.Sometimes I make tracks with guitar-sounds,and sometimes I make more trancey tracks.The core in APOP isn't the sounds that are made,it's the vocals and how the tracks are built up.Nowadays for instance,I'm making more funky electro-ish tunes..."

(This was his answer when the interviewer asked him if all the musical experimenting had robbed APOP of all musical identity.)

I hope this cleared things up.


Posted by Porky on Aug-08-2002 15:05:

hmmm

quote:
Originally posted by mindshooter
There is also a Green Court remix
I happen to have the "12 with the corsten and the green court remix... There is a commondore 64 on the cover...really cool

To bad i dont own a Turntable so i can play it


imo the green court remix sux the big doo doo

Vnv/Victoria remix is the best! trust me on this one

Pork


Posted by davinox on Aug-08-2002 15:22:

come on.

Victoria Mix is OK...but better than Ferry Corsten Remix??????

Corsten made it killer.


Posted by DJ Chrono on Aug-08-2002 17:32:

ferry corsten mix is amazing, nothing can beat it.

the green court mix is very good too, but alittle too average sounding.

the victoria mix is .. too slow and lacks some energy.


Posted by Hoss on Aug-08-2002 19:56:

Sand Leaper hit it right on the head. Apop is EBM - Electronic Body Music. They're not trance, although there have been some trance mixes done to their stuff. Kathy's Song is awesome, but it's not my favorite tune by them. I highly reccomend:

Apoptygma Berzerk - Eclipse

Another EBM group that I really enjoy is VNV Nation. I listened to them and apop before I really got into trance. More male vocals than trance music, but it still rocks. If you wanna check out some of their stuff, some recommended tracks are:

VNV Nation - Further
VNV Nation - Kingdom
VNV Nation - Leigon
VNV Nation - Solitary
VNV Nation - Standing (Extended Version) <-- personal fav
VNV Nation - Tempest


Posted by KilldaDJ on Aug-08-2002 21:07:

King

kathys song is well cool
esp the ferry corsten remix
a bit slow tho... [132 bpm]
+5% pitch = mmm...


Posted by Porky on Aug-08-2002 22:26:

oy..

quote:
Originally posted by davinox
come on.

Victoria Mix is OK...but better than Ferry Corsten Remix??????

Corsten made it killer.



the victoria remix haS A beautiful intro and female synths..and sounds epic

ferry just took the middle part of the victoria remix and sped it up, that's all..nothing too fancy


Pork


Posted by Verona^My on Aug-09-2002 18:44:

Apop is cool. I like his cover of Electricity by OMD. The 7 album is his best, Welcome to Earth has 3 good songs on it. I really like Eclipse on that album. His stuff is popular with the underground synthpop scene.


Posted by Verona^My on Aug-09-2002 18:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Hoss
Sand Leaper hit it right on the head. Apop is EBM - Electronic Body Music. They're not trance, although there have been some trance mixes done to their stuff. Kathy's Song is awesome, but it's not my favorite tune by them. I highly reccomend:

Apoptygma Berzerk - Eclipse

Another EBM group that I really enjoy is VNV Nation. I listened to them and apop before I really got into trance. More male vocals than trance music, but it still rocks. If you wanna check out some of their stuff, some recommended tracks are:

VNV Nation - Further
VNV Nation - Kingdom
VNV Nation - Leigon
VNV Nation - Solitary
VNV Nation - Standing (Extended Version) <-- personal fav
VNV Nation - Tempest


VNV is good, I like the Empires album alot. I also like the group Assemblage23, esp for the song Dissapoint. Incredible tune. I still think groups like VNV are on the synthpoppy side of EBM. Some even call them trance with a twist of EBM. heh


Posted by SRP-ReAlign on Aug-10-2002 01:36:

Do not know whether this question sounds stupid or not, but could anybody please tell me how to pronounce "Apoptygma Berzerk"???


Posted by Hoss on Aug-10-2002 17:40:

quote:
Originally posted by SRP-ReAlign
Do not know whether this question sounds stupid or not, but could anybody please tell me how to pronounce "Apoptygma Berzerk"???


A - pronounced like a long 'a' sound
POP - pronounced like the type of shitty music
TYGMA - pronounced just like "stigma" w/o the 's' look it up if you can't pronounce it.

BERZERK - pronounced like the real word - berserk

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but that's how I've always said it and I've heard others say it the same way so I assume it's right.


Posted by DamnDirtyApe on Aug-10-2002 19:09:

heh, I remember EBM. Very catchy, yet very depressing at the same time!



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