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Ok seriously, wtf is this sound called? (mid bass)

I don't think anyone will know how to make this mid bass but its definitely the sound I'm going for myself, among other sounds. Like I said I've just gotten bored/tired of saw basses and am leaning towards a more aggressive FM type of sound, or in this case... I have no idea how this sound is made. But it looks like it was made from an amateur youtube user who uses FL and it came out pretty solid.

Is it in acid? sync? fm?



I notice, and I may be wrong. It actually sounds like the sound is one long sustain sound, but the part that sounds like a mid bass is some sort of automation that is creating those resonant spikes that in the track sounds like notes of the mid bass hitting.
Its not a typical mid bass where the notes hit individually, like I said it sounds like an automation and if you listen carefully he is also automating other parameters that sounds like a very sharp gate over the long sustain areas (in a groove fashion that makes it sound like small notes, but it still sounds like 1 long sustain sound a bar long or w/e).

But its definitely automation I think. Please don't tell me its just a distorted saw because its not. It sounds like a sync or acid, but does ANYONE KNOW how to get that sound?

I pm'd the youtube user and he hasn't got back yet lol. I need to learn how to make those edgy sounds so I can build some sort of foundation from it.

the formant sound?

that sound isn't part of the bass. I think you have trouble hearing things. And yes it is a simple sync synth with filtering. Thats it. Massive has sounds like this in the presets. SO does the virus.

HPF+distortion. Youre a Reason user, Subtractor can do it easily.

do you have a better audio example? 128k youtube compression really smashes frequencies together and shouldn't be a reference point for your music... (and sound design).

Looney4Clooney - how are ya man, good to hear from you!

Are you talking about that one arpeggiated synth that's sort of doing its own thing in the stereo center?

i think he is talking about the syncopated synth that appears right at the beginning that sort of complements the bass.

90% sure it's an FM sound (probably from v-station)

edit: do people even watch the tutorial videos that get posted here?

I live for these types acidic midbasses and use them heavily in many of my productions. I've gotten the best results using my Virus or Zebra 2.

Yeh its the syncopated one that comes in from the begining.

The "mid bass", I mean isn't that what you'd call it? Appears to play the role of one.
There seems to be a bit of confusion though. Some people are saying its a sync, others are saying FM. I need to know which it actually is that way I can at least start watching some tuts on that sound.

I know what knobs lead to sync/fm sounds and feel like pro-53 or subtractor would be a good starting point. Although I never got that type of tone from any sync patches I made before. So hopefully I'll get a response from the guy who made it.

Also, for the person mentioning v-station tuts. They all suck. I don't need to know how to make a supersaw, house bass sound, classic trance leads, electro bass, deadmau5 chords, or any of the basic tuts youtube actually has. I need an advanced tut on FM synthesis, or doing syncs. If anyone knows of any that are out there, PLEASE let me know. Otherwise I'm just going to go back and keep failing like I always have. Syncs are not hard, but he's doing something most people don't to their syncs. My virus has a lot of great acid/sync presets, but again none that sound even close to that sound.

I want to learn this stuff, but like I said its not as simple as people make it. Theres only so many ways to sync a sound, and all the results sound like a typical boring sync. Just never heard any preset that sounds even close to this vid. So anyone saying its easy then show me how easy it really is lol.

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Originally posted by Magnus I live for these types acidic midbasses and use them heavily in many of my productions. I've gotten the best results using my Virus or Zebra 2.

Ok thanks. I have both a virus snow and zebra but think I'll try zebra first. Only because I find programming easier in it.

I'll go see if theres any tuts on this on youtube although I doubt it.

Hey robby

How many z3tas did you use in this?

Haha you're an ass. I don't think I used any z3tas for that.
That was one of the last times I finished a track like 4 years ago I think.
You can clearly see why I stopped finishing work, its horrific.

But my sound and style has actually improved A LOT since those vids. Not to mention the clipping which is horrendous.

I got into "tritonics" FM* tutorial vids on youtube as he seems to be the most advanced and I was hearing some sounds that appealed to me in his vids.
Then I also downloaded a 13,000 preset pack for FM8. I'm going to go through them tonight and see if theres any interesting FM sounds I can use as a base to build from. I won't be able to replicate that sound but I've had enough of not knowing how to make the sounds I like, so I'm going to learn one way or another how to make these edgy distorted sounds.

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox Then I also downloaded a 13,000 preset pack for FM8.

where did u get the 13,000 pack at?
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...33&referrerid=2

Well I saw it when I was looking for FM8 tuts on youtube and had typed "FM8 tutorial" then saw it on the right side. Theres actually 2 users advertising the same 13,000 preset pack.
Then they will have a link under the vid to dl the pack.

I just DL'd it but since I just started using FM8 don't know how to import them. I used the "import" function right on the GUI but for some reason its not showing any patches, not sure why. So if you get it to work let me know.

Otherwise for 3 hours now I've been watching FM8 tuts on FM synthesis. This is exactly what I needed. The matrix in FM8 makes a crapload more sense than the matrix in sytrus. I just like the entire GUI a lot better. And I'm already making some pretty edgy FM drone/basses by just modulating sine waves and detuning them a bit. I can't imagine what kind of sounds I can get once I actually dive into the waveforms. I'm still not close to the timbre of the sound I posted but I'm getting some pretty cool results regardless. FM is the shit!

edit: Ok duh just figured it out trying to save my first preset. You don't use the import function you just use the file drop down on top then go to "open sound". Simple enough.

edit#2: ok none of the files on youtube were working but this one is the actual 13,000 presets.

13,000 FM8 Presets
btw the Adam Van Baker Bass Bank is ridiculous. This is the most presets I've ever seen in my life on a synth.

sorry a couldn't resist

A really enjoyed the track you originally posted, good stuff,
and reading the guy's profile he says he's always willing to help so maybe he will get back to you and give you the info your after.

13000 presets? sure you have enough CPU for that robby?

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox Haha you're an ass. I don't think I used any z3tas for that. That was one of the last times I finished a track like 4 years ago I think. You can clearly see why I stopped finishing work, its horrific. But my sound and style has actually improved A LOT since those vids. Not to mention the clipping which is horrendous. I got into "tritonics" FM* tutorial vids on youtube as he seems to be the most advanced and I was hearing some sounds that appealed to me in his vids. Then I also downloaded a 13,000 preset pack for FM8. I'm going to go through them tonight and see if theres any interesting FM sounds I can use as a base to build from. I won't be able to replicate that sound but I've had enough of not knowing how to make the sounds I like, so I'm going to learn one way or another how to make these edgy distorted sounds.

Hey Robby,

Sorry for out of topic respond but I had to comment on this 4 yrs old production of yours --> It was (as for your early or beginning production life) an impressive piece of music with some nice blend of different genres, not bad at all my friend!!

Cheers,

Darek

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Originally posted by 112268 13000 presets? sure you have enough CPU for that robby?

Ohhhhh nnoo!!! Best day of my life by far! He sent the FLP with the bass in it and everything. Also talked about what his thought process was when making the bass. I knew something weird was going on this is NOT a sync it was made on sytrus and in a way I would have never guessed in my life.

I'm going to come back to update after I study the bass in Fruity just so people understand the logic of how its made. I've never been so fucking happy in my life. Gay I know but the late response caught me by suprise.

You could make it many ways. I would have used a sync'd oscillator. You could also use an fm synth. Or just normal subtractive with noise oscillators

robby i laugh of every single post you make. thanks for making my day, the same way that dude made your day. thank you. how many years have you been trying to make that baseline tutorial again?

ps. let me know if you are sick of the mockery

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox Ohhhhh nnoo!!! Best day of my life by far! He sent the FLP with the bass in it and everything.

Care to share? not to advocate tossing around his own work but I rather like that bass's sound

also all of you guys talking about how simple it'd be to make a bass like this, can someone actually go ahead and do it, and then post the example here? and then maybe give more than a brief, one-line description of how they managed to do it? I've been trying for quite a while and Robbie's been at it for 4 years, what the hell are we missing? everyone makes it seem so easy.

edit2: that kind of sounded like I want you guys to do the work for me/us, that's not really what I was going for, just thought I'd toss that out there before someone jumps on me

Yeh thats how they did it just modulating sines in the matrix and the one carrier sine has added harmonics to it.

I'm actually suprised how simple the fucking thing is lol, a bit depressed really. I know I've heard this sound before too he saved it as "tyas bass" but it sounds like an old harpsichord preset with distortion.
In fact, playing the notes on my keyboard, I would have NEVER chose to mix that sound as a bass. It sounds like a harpsichord the second you take distortion off it. And he did some pretty odd things I've never seen before. Like the use of distortion after delay, it creates a very weird forced and unnatural type of delay.

Either way I want to try reprogramming different patches from what he made now. Its really all about the timbres and they are in your face like no sound I've heard before, so I guess it doesn't matter what the sound actually is as long as it works.

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Originally posted by Kysora Care to share?

Yes you know it man.

And 112268 feel free to mach me all you want. I'm in too much of a good mood to really care brotha.

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