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Posted by kadomony on Mar-09-2011 02:05:

"Mystical" Feeling?

Hey, I'm wondering if anybody has some insight on what creates a mystical sound. I'm sure it's just me, but perhaps someone else gets the same feeling from this kind of sequence.

Hard to describe as it's a feeling, but I want to say it's like an ancient mystical temple in the future or something. (yeah yeah, i know abstract shit.) I only had this sound one time before, unfortunately its stuck in an flp and I dont have FL installed anymore.

So, I'm looking for a way to make some alternate ways of creating this sound. However, I'm trying to determine if it's based in the particular note sequence, the note length, the effects (delay-->reverb), or something else.

Notes are: A# C# D# F
Interestingly, I don't get the same feeling when I transpose to any other key. I think it's the C# D# A# in particular that is contributing.

Download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1734626/mystic.mp3


Posted by KeenOnSheen on Mar-09-2011 03:35:

Re: "Mystical" Feeling?

quote:
Originally posted by kadomony
Hey, I'm wondering if anybody has some insight on what creates a mystical sound. I'm sure it's just me, but perhaps someone else gets the same feeling from this kind of sequence.

Hard to describe as it's a feeling, but I want to say it's like an ancient mystical temple in the future or something. (yeah yeah, i know abstract shit.) I only had this sound one time before, unfortunately its stuck in an flp and I dont have FL installed anymore.

So, I'm looking for a way to make some alternate ways of creating this sound. However, I'm trying to determine if it's based in the particular note sequence, the note length, the effects (delay-->reverb), or something else.

Notes are: A# C# D# F
Interestingly, I don't get the same feeling when I transpose to any other key. I think it's the C# D# A# in particular that is contributing.

Download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1734626/mystic.mp3


Delay seems to be the trick... And it's a pretty common sequence, IMO.


Posted by J.L. on Mar-09-2011 04:26:

It's probably the timbre of the sound you are using, it's envelope and effects...

You can make any 4 notes make like an ancient mystical temple in the future (which is sorta an oxymoron)


Posted by meriter on Mar-09-2011 06:29:

I really feel like I should contribute something in this thread but that sample is so far removed from what I'd call 'mystical' i'm just left sort of confused.


Posted by sako487 on Mar-09-2011 08:01:

quote:
Originally posted by meriter
I really feel like I should contribute something in this thread but that sample is so far removed from what I'd call 'mystical' i'm just left sort of confused.


i second this notion


Posted by meriter on Mar-09-2011 08:08:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xU09AXhlkk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W7Fpc9rUBw
http://www.pussyslayer.com/i/02 _Ya Ma Le.mp3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9Yw7Jh81w0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkpaJ6FAfZI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H85BKniMzHc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1KYEQRgjDU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLOth-BuCNY


Posted by 112268 on Mar-09-2011 15:33:

two major chords not fitting together. see prodigy - break and enter for example. those might be minor when i think of it.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Mar-09-2011 15:42:

first chord is minor, second is major. Tritone relation.


Posted by 112268 on Mar-09-2011 15:45:

your right.

heres another example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMfT...feature=related

another one, use arabic shit melodies (one up from basenote?? i dont kno the term). typical in psy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDG_FHpJI9E

it should be said too that if you repeat something for long enough you will start to hear its hidden voices. thats pretty mystical imo.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Mar-09-2011 16:14:

if I where to score something mystical, I would use whole tone scales. That is pretty much the standard way to sound mystical. Of course I don't really think the OP means mystical just like people throw the word uplifting around without knowing what they are trying to describe.

Scriabin had a chord later to be called the mystic chord but that has more to do with his religious nuttery than how it sounds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystic_chord

to the op, i know it is rather pedantic but you should spell that chord Bb db f with an added 4/11. Also, unless you are using a mean tone or similar non equal tuning on your piano/keybaord/daw, changing keys will not make it sound different. IT is all in your head.


Posted by tehlord on Mar-09-2011 16:23:

Buy any wavetable synth, find a preset with the word 'temple' in it and hold down any key for seven minutes.


Posted by kadomony on Mar-09-2011 23:15:

Hey thanks for the input guys.

I think it comes down to 3 things, the delay and the timbre, and perhaps personal preference for those notes. I took off the delay and it lost some of the effect, but the 32nd notes still gave me a little bit of the sound. I changed the sound I used, which lessened the effect. I'm pretty sure the other project also used plucky virus sounds and would venture to guess that sequence used the same notes.

And yes, by "mystical" I don't mean any concrete idea, I'm just using it as the description of the feeling/picture I get from it.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Mar-09-2011 23:22:

post an audio example of what you mean and it would be much simpler


Posted by kadomony on Mar-10-2011 00:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
post an audio example of what you mean and it would be much simpler


Here's a clip of a bunch of different tunes that come close to what I mean:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1734626/Untitled.mp3

:00 This one is the best example
:10 Plucks in the background
:24 The percussive notes
:30 The lead progression
:42 The bright lead
:52 The saw-y bright lead


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Mar-10-2011 01:02:

the problem is that each example is really different that they each warrant their own thread.


Posted by kadomony on Mar-10-2011 01:15:

Fair enough, I'm sure it's also majorly in part to my interpretation of the sound(s).


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Mar-10-2011 01:52:

i always really liked the matrix soundtrack well the stuff by davis



that is pretty mystical at times.



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