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Posted by Looney4Clooney on Mar-12-2011 04:50:

Rap production

Why is it so bad ? I don't want to say it is a race thing because I know it probably has more to do with poverty and these people not having access to the tools. Just weird how the black community was for decades the leaders in new music but where the hell did all that talent go. There must be some reason like the creating of projects and the lack of 2 parent families. I love watching those youtube videos. Here is ma beat!!!


Posted by Beatflux on Mar-12-2011 04:57:

They have crappy synth taste. I turn on the radio and I hear the JP-80 whatever. They are behind the trance genre, what does that tell you?

Plus, all of the good samples have been taken. So yeah.


Posted by J.L. on Mar-12-2011 05:35:

To be fair, there are quite a lot of bad EDM producers.

But, lack of access to tools and lack of education is probably why.


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Mar-12-2011 05:36:

Bigot lol.

The worst is when I gotta go on youtube to find an FL tut and theres 50,000 shitty ones made by 50,000 rap artists who think they're the second coming to biggies smalls.
They can't even get straight to the tut either. Its always about giving a shot out to their "beat co-manager", freestyle/intro their tut, then AS they're actually giving the tut turn up rap music louder than the person speaking.

I don't think the problem is money honestly I think its something else but I'll keep my mouth shut as its not my thread.


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Mar-12-2011 05:40:

quote:
Originally posted by J.L.
To be fair, there are quite a lot of bad EDM producers.

But, lack of access to tools and lack of education is probably why.


What "tools". If they're making music they have a computer and can just steal the tools like most people do. They can also learn to produce the same way, on their computer using google/youtube like most people.


Posted by sako487 on Mar-12-2011 05:43:

People pay decent money for beats, one guy I knew gets at least 70-100 per track


Posted by kevin shawn on Mar-12-2011 08:44:

I watched a hip hop prod video of a guy going over some studio equipment and he pointed at a synth on a rack and said, "Man, I don't know what this is but it's got mad bass yo!" The guy was really good on the keys though and good with an MPC.

Another quote from that video that I still use today....If the drums ain't tight.....shit ain't right okay my nigga?


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Mar-12-2011 09:35:

so any ideas ? The stuff I heard had great production. non of this 808 909 synthetic quantized bull shit. The synths were really current ie stuff you would hear in noisia. I know it was underground stuff which makes me wonder if it is from france. Really cool stuff.


Posted by 112268 on Mar-12-2011 11:31:

the problem was cracks and weed during 80s and 90s fucking up their kids.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Mar-12-2011 11:54:

must be something along those lines. Kinda sad. Well at least they have sports still.


Posted by kitphillips on Mar-12-2011 12:05:

Could just be because there hasn't been a lot of social change in america since the 1970s or so. I mean, there were still race riots and shit going on in the 90s, still a lot of disenfranchisement, still a lot of overtly fucked up shit to fight about if you were young.

These days, there's less social change and more ingrained poverty. But at the same time, the poverty isn't there because there's an overt government policy banning blacks from law schools, its just a low lying constant discrimination.

I see it as less of a black issue and more of an American issue tbh, but obviously I don't live in america so meh.


Posted by 112268 on Mar-12-2011 12:17:

its crack. simple. give it a generation or two and they will rule our white rhythmless asses again.


Posted by tehlord on Mar-12-2011 13:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
must be something along those lines. Kinda sad. Well at least they have sports still.


and the whitehouse


Posted by Beatflux on Mar-12-2011 14:35:

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
I mean, there were still race riots and shit going on in the 90s, still a lot of disenfranchisement, still a lot of overtly fucked up shit to fight about if you were young.


Don't you mean block party?


Posted by atxbigballer1 on Mar-23-2011 02:25:

Me and my boy E make rap and hip hop tracks!

part 2


part 1


Posted by BECK on Mar-23-2011 08:04:

lol your vids are so random. "Reason yo Reason"


Posted by -FSP- on Mar-23-2011 10:42:

I personally think that Soulja boy's super soaker song or whatever it's called is awesome production.

/covers face in fear


Posted by Richard Butler on Mar-23-2011 13:25:

If I turn on freeview TV here, the 2 main music channels are dominated by black music - my kids mainly like black American artists.

In terms of EDM, we noticed the black guys all drifted away from it and got into hiphop n RnB by the late 90's and now the vast majority of EDM porducers seem to be white.

WHen I hear classic black house from the 90's it has a lot more soul but it does sound very tired. That whole black mama gospel singing style died away.


Posted by Timothy on Mar-24-2011 19:48:

Lil Wayne and T-pain changed music recently. Now everybody is abusing autotune.

They must be doing something right if guys like Timbaland and the producers behind Kesha jump on the autotune bandwagon.

( I know autotune and vocoders have been around for many times, but it was untill T-pain and Lil wayne started abusing it that it got popular again )


Posted by Timothy on Mar-24-2011 19:59:

quote:
Originally posted by -FSP-
I personally think that Soulja boy's super soaker song or whatever it's called is awesome production.

/covers face in fear


It's not bad what he did. It took him 10 minutes to make his hit song "crank that" in Fruity Loops and he made $10 million with it


Posted by Storyteller on Mar-25-2011 06:28:

A million a minute. I'd sign for that.



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