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Posted by _dinamit_ on Mar-12-2011 06:34:

Progressive/ Tech House Most Have Plug-ins

Hello Everyone. Just thoght it will be good idea that anyone who have more experience can give names of several plug-ings that push's his Kicks, Bassline to the next level.

I'm new in this field and will be glad to see your recommendations

Just Got the Waves SSL-4000 Bundle and hope to get the best of it.

also will be nice to hear what you think, theres mach big different between this Pack (SSL-4000) and the Hardware version "Duende"?

Many Thanks!


Posted by kevin shawn on Mar-12-2011 08:29:

*sigh*


Posted by Storyteller on Mar-12-2011 09:13:

Plugins are never really genre specific.

I just use good samples and a few plugins. My favs/most used are:
- Voxengo MSED
- Flux Bittersweet
- Tls Maximizer
- Synth1

All of those are free.


Furthermore I use FXPansion synthsquad, Nomad plugins and some more.


Posted by music2dance2 on Mar-12-2011 11:18:

What he said. You can make great prog/tech house with any plug-in.


Posted by rulzz on Mar-12-2011 16:48:

you should also grab a noise generator and outboard compressor with side-chaining option then just sidechain the shit out of the noise generator


*facepalm

the only thing that pushes things to next level is experience. Better plugins won't make you write better music if you don't know how to use them


Posted by _dinamit_ on Mar-12-2011 19:32:

quote:
Originally posted by rulzz
you should also grab a noise generator and outboard compressor with side-chaining option then just sidechain the shit out of the noise generator


*facepalm

the only thing that pushes things to next level is experience. Better plugins won't make you write better music if you don't know how to use them


not agree, am not talking about the compostion, and theres more than several plug-ing that make your kick sound more analogy than others.

please don't try to write general .sentences that ben said before , give some practical specific , technical advices.


Posted by Storyteller on Mar-12-2011 20:00:

lol


Posted by mathieu on Mar-12-2011 20:22:

quote:
Originally posted by _dinamit_
not agree, am not talking about the compostion, and theres more than several plug-ing that make your kick sound more analogy than others.

please don't try to write general .sentences that ben said before , give some practical specific , technical advices.

if your music is fucking garbage a more analogy kick wont help, no one gives a shit about your kick, people wanna dance, not listen and examine your analog-y kick


Posted by _dinamit_ on Mar-12-2011 20:33:

quote:
Originally posted by mathieu
if your music is fucking garbage a more analogy kick wont help, no one gives a shit about your kick, people wanna dance, not listen and examine your analog-y kick


mathieu, please read the title of the subject. i'm not talking about compostion so if you don't know to answer - save it.

thanks.


Posted by skyhunter on Mar-12-2011 21:36:

Any plug in will work, as said before. If you are looking for more genre specific stuff then look at sample packs.

I just try and keep in mind that an amazing artist doesn't need amazing tools, they can make audiences enraptured with a spoon.


Posted by music2dance2 on Mar-12-2011 21:53:

PSP Vintage warmer
TC Electronic Character Plug In (PowerCore)
Distortion on the bass/tape saturation FX
Parallel compression

Ok last two arent plugs but they might help you.


Posted by Beatflux on Mar-12-2011 21:59:

quote:
Originally posted by mathieu
analog-y


Haven't you heard? Ever plug-in these days is imparted with an "Analog" sound. There's no DAW or plug-in you can turn to and not get that warm analogy sound. Mmm mmm.


Posted by DigiNut on Mar-12-2011 22:28:

quote:
Originally posted by _dinamit_
give some practical specific , technical advices.

The problem is that you haven't asked for practical, specific, technical advice, you've just asked for:

quote:
names of several plug-ings that push's his Kicks, Bassline to the next level.


Which is completely meaningless.

Are you looking for something specific, or are you just expecting people to list whatever their favourite plugins are?

Do you know what kind of plugins you're looking for, at least? Synthesizers? Compressors? Equalizers? All of those and more are related to the kick and bassline and all are completely separate subjects.

If you're just expecting to be able to download a plugin and have your track magically sound better then prepare to be disappointed.


Posted by mathieu on Mar-12-2011 22:43:

quote:
Originally posted by _dinamit_
mathieu, please read the title of the subject. i'm not talking about compostion so if you don't know to answer - save it.

thanks.


Ok, ill let you in on a little secret. for bass sounds you need either the synth in ableton called ''Analog'' or ''AAS Ultra Analog''
these synth are what the pros use for big basses. add your ssl on it and also a pultec eq then make it go through a vintage tape machine , then through a plate reverb with about 500 ms of decay then recompress it throught an empirical labs distressor. then you would usually layer it with a moog voyager saw wave (you need the blue edition of course, very important) then send this back to your daw and process it through T-racks Deluxe. for drums you need an elektron machinedrum when your done composing. compress the drums with an urei 1176, add ur ssl again then cytomic the glue for a bit of dictortion. then buss the bass and drums together and compress it through the sonnox oxford compressor with the warm setting at about 65% then through your ssl again and you should be good my friend.


Posted by rulzz on Mar-12-2011 22:58:

quote:
Originally posted by _dinamit_
not agree, am not talking about the compostion, and theres more than several plug-ing that make your kick sound more analogy than others.

please don't try to write general .sentences that ben said before , give some practical specific , technical advices.


if you do not know how a compressor works or what it does with a sound at different settings there is no point in better sounding compressors. Your music will still sound shit if you don't know how to use the tools and what are you after in the sound.

Also from experience a proper EQ of elements will polish the sound much better than any compressor.


Posted by rulzz on Mar-12-2011 23:00:

quote:
Originally posted by mathieu
Ok, ill let you in on a little secret. for bass sounds you need either the synth in ableton called ''Analog'' or ''AAS Ultra Analog''
these synth are what the pros use for big basses. add your ssl on it and also a pultec eq then make it go through a vintage tape machine , then through a plate reverb with about 500 ms of decay then recompress it throught an empirical labs distressor. then you would usually layer it with a moog voyager saw wave (you need the blue edition of course, very important) then send this back to your daw and process it through T-racks Deluxe. for drums you need an elektron machinedrum when your done composing. compress the drums with an urei 1176, add ur ssl again then cytomic the glue for a bit of dictortion. then buss the bass and drums together and compress it through the sonnox oxford compressor with the warm setting at about 65% then through your ssl again and you should be good my friend.


proper loled


Posted by 112268 on Mar-12-2011 23:54:

im using included instruments only.


Posted by Beatflux on Mar-13-2011 00:08:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut

If you're just expecting to be able to download a plugin and have your track magically sound better then prepare to be disappointed.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]


There are some plug-ins that do that.


Posted by _dinamit_ on Mar-13-2011 07:33:

first of all, thanks for the serious answers.
Matieu, I know those products, but the uri comperssor needs a hardware if im not mastking , i founded that the Teletronix gives better results , littel bit warmer. to the guy that said that "i need to know what compressor does - i know. and like the last guy said there several plug-ins that help, for example the presets that Waves put in there plug-ins are good point to start.

and Matieu, i know the vintage warmer, and usually i prefer to use Oxfford Infltor that gives the same results. for the others plug-ins that you recommended - i will check them.
agreed with the guy that said that with an good EQ use on 2 waves form (sine + saw) i can get good results (to creat some Bassline), but still needed good EQ, The Oxfford R3 is great.

Thanks for the serious responses


Posted by music2dance2 on Mar-13-2011 08:34:

Also any of the plug ins that come included with the software you use will help your bass and kick to the level you require. You just need to know them very well.


Posted by _dinamit_ on Mar-13-2011 09:14:

quote:
Originally posted by music2dance2
Also any of the plug ins that come included with the software you use will help your bass and kick to the level you require. You just need to know them very well.


thank for the answer, I'm currently using cubase 5 and the built-in presets sounds littel bit poor to me, and by adding some harmony added plugs, the results just not there. when i upgrade to the ssl - i felt big difference. that's why i opened this thrid. i dont want to be come a Wave's addicted, and the other plugs (like the woderfull UAD's) needs Hardwaer.

Ereyone here that just think that the compostion is everything make a big mistake, especially if we are talking about advanced electronic dance production. maybe i'm a biggner in the field but i'm learning the basics professionaly at this days, hope the people here will understand that.

have a good day.


Posted by mathieu on Mar-13-2011 09:41:

quote:
Originally posted by _dinamit_
first of all, thanks for the serious answers.
Matieu, I know those products, but the uri comperssor needs a hardware if im not mastking , i founded that the Teletronix gives better results , littel bit warmer. to the guy that said that "i need to know what compressor does - i know. and like the last guy said there several plug-ins that help, for example the presets that Waves put in there plug-ins are good point to start.

and Matieu, i know the vintage warmer, and usually i prefer to use Oxfford Infltor that gives the same results. for the others plug-ins that you recommended - i will check them.
agreed with the guy that said that with an good EQ use on 2 waves form (sine + saw) i can get good results (to creat some Bassline), but still needed good EQ, The Oxfford R3 is great.

Thanks for the serious responses

I made a weird post eh? I was jokng but at the same time recommended you lots of plugs lol. And yes you need a UAD card for the urei. Out of all the plugs I recommended the one I recommend the most is ''Cytomic the glue'' its 99$ but its pure quality. like better than stuff that is 2 times the price. To be honest tho, processing is not everything you still need good synths. And I was joking about ''AAS Ultra Analog'' and the other synth lol.



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