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Posted by Tilt on Aug-08-2002 17:51:

djm 500/600

Hey

I'd like to know wath the main differences are between the 500 and 600 and are they worth spending the money?


Posted by Martin McG on Aug-08-2002 17:56:

i think the main difference between the two is the effects and sampler which is on the 600! apart from that im pretty sure the mixers are just the same! so it depends if you want effects or not!


Posted by Tony Morello on Aug-08-2002 18:17:

check the pioneer website... they're bound to have spec on both mixers, or check any online dj store


Posted by tubby on Aug-08-2002 22:45:

try pioneerprodj.com. they have a mixer comparison table. The sampler is the biggest difference I know of.
One intersting difference that I only just found is that one the 500 if you are using the x-fader, you can't use any of the other channels. on the 600 and 3000 the x-fader works on the two channels assigned to it, and the volume faders control the other two. The 500 won't use the other channels at all.

tub


Posted by DJ LIQUID on Aug-08-2002 22:58:

the 600 has a beautiful silver finish

>>which was my main reason for purchase


Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Aug-09-2002 15:29:

worth noting.. the 600 has a crossfader curve selector and the eq's are -26db, versus -20db on the 500.

-mer


Posted by DJ Ezzian on Aug-10-2002 15:43:

I would buy the the 500 beacause the 600 is not worth the extra $$$


Posted by Acid Circus on Aug-10-2002 21:28:

quote:
Originally posted by big dave
i think the main difference between the two is the effects and sampler which is on the 600! apart from that im pretty sure the mixers are just the same! so it depends if you want effects or not!


Spot on, main difference is the sampler plus those db level differences meridian mentioned. I have never used a 600 personally but have been told they feel the exact same!


Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Aug-11-2002 01:48:

quote:
Originally posted by big dave
i think the main difference between the two is the effects and sampler which is on the 600! apart from that im pretty sure the mixers are just the same! so it depends if you want effects or not!


the 500 has effects! but it does NOT have a sampler!

so.. take the 600 effects.. remove the sampler.. remove one or two cheesypoof effects, and you have the 500.

the 500 still has the flanger and other basic efx in it... i think there were 2 extra effects on the 600.

i dont remember the exact details.

http://www.pioneerprodj.com

IMHO, if your going to spend allll that cash on a 600, why not just get an a&h xone:62 ?? the cost is the same, and i consider it a more capable board.

-mer


Posted by Sinonick on Aug-11-2002 02:50:

if it really is the same price range then definitely go for the xone:62

can't compare those two in any way... besides, xone:62 is sucha beauty...


Posted by Dj Flesch on Aug-11-2002 14:23:

There are a lot of differences between the two, and as a DJM-600 owner and user of (some of) the functions that make it different, I will explain them here.

The DJM-600 has an extra line input, though the 500 still have two CD inputs, so you can hook up two cd decks to both.

You can select the resistance levels of your crossfader, which is useful depending on if you use the crossfader vs the volume sliders to mix with. The different selections has helped me make the transition of the bass much smoother than without this function.

The effects processor has a sampler etc, which you can listen to in the headphones (what the effect sounds like with the track before you play it live). You can take loops and beats from other tracks and use them in the tracks you are playing live to "remix" live.

The 600 also has two effects, auto trans and auto filter which can be used for some wiked effects, if used properly!

Direct beat select allows you, in conjuntion with pioneer cdplayers to have the disc start as soon as you start moving the crossfader over to the other side. This is otherwise known as fader start (I believe these things are the same, though I am not absolutely positive).

The DJM-600 has a VERY useful effects depth level knob. If you use flanging, wah, etc. You may notice that it makes the volume spike a bit. You can controle this with the depth level knob. It it a great way to fade in and out of your effects too to make them more subtle!
(one of my favorite features).

The cut off on the eq knobs are a full 6dB lower than on the DJM-500

I think that the most important feature is that you cannot control the cue/master ratio on the 500! This means that on the 600 you can adjust between only cue and only master in your headphones (or any combination of inputs for that matter) including effects that you may wish to test out before you go live! I've used a 500 a couple times and it is a big pain in the ass when you have two bass beats that are really similar and you can't fade between master and cue to see if the cue beat is slower or faster. This above any other single reason, is the reason to get the 600 over the 500! Those who have a 600 know what I'm talking about and probably couldn't even imagine using a mixer without this function!

The 600 has a talkover button (which is in a very bad place, for me anyway) that silences the music quite a bit to allow the microphone to be used while the music is still playing. I inadvertantly hit it while I'm recording and it sucks! Though this is not that big of a deal once you learn not to hit it

The 600 does NOT have a headphone eq, which in my opinion is not really that useful because you can always use the cue eq to add or subtract the frequency ranges that you want.

The 500 has a 1/4 master output, which you will more than likely need and adaptor for if you take your mixer to a club with you. This is more convienent for those hooking it up to their computers, but you can always buy a $2 connector at radio shack etc.

The 600 has RCA record outs, so that you can hook up booth monitors to one out, the main speakers to another out, and a third source to record your set. The nice thing about the record out is that it isn't affected by things like the master volume or balance. Only the two line/cd/phone volume sliders that you are using and the crossfader.

ANyway, I hope that I summed it up pretty well here. I would say that the price for the 600 is well worth it, and as liquid said, it looks better too! Being that the price differece is about $400 MSRP, I'm sure that you can close that gap a bit. I bought mine for $1050 USD almost 1.5 years ago from www.pssl.com

If you have any more questions, I'd love to try to answer them as best as I can!


Posted by Acid Circus on Aug-11-2002 15:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Flesch
You can select the resistance levels of your crossfader, which is useful depending on if you use the crossfader vs the volume sliders to mix with. The different selections has helped me make the transition of the bass much smoother than without this function.


Never knew that, would be useful for me as I love loads of resistance to make those super smooth mixes!


Posted by Pinto on Aug-13-2002 10:57:

I have the DJM 600 and i worked also on the DJM 500 and the slides on the 600 are more sensetive and easy to move. there are more 2 new effects on the 600 the trans & the filter.



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