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How do you make a gliding trance/techno synth?

I asked a similar question to this but didn't receive much help/clarity at all. I'm wondering how to make a gliding lower/higher octave synth. I tried doing this is in Vanguard, putting a bit of glide on the notes, overlapping them and such but I just can't get it to sound right. I see no tutorial anywhere. Can someone help me out. Examples below...


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What is glide?? Seriously, that adjective can apply to any number of things.

Basically a smooth roll to the next note, as in the examples I posted thus far.

Vanguards bending is a bit shitty IMO, doesnt work all the time. I actually prefer Albino 3's one much more these days.

Anyways, glide is just portamento. Some synths you can set it up quite nicely.

For example: Albino's glide has 3 settings(on, hold, bend) as well as an adjustable knob for the time and even a curve setting. While vanguard just has note lengths.

Just set the sound to mono and adjust the settings till you start getting a bit of pitch bend, then you just tweak to taste. Note length and velocity can play a big part with this though.

Re: How do you make a gliding trance/techno synth?

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Originally posted by OOPS! I asked a similar question to this but didn't receive much help/clarity at all. I'm wondering how to make a gliding lower/higher octave synth. I tried doing this is in Vanguard, putting a bit of glide on the notes, overlapping them and such but I just can't get it to sound right. I see no tutorial anywhere. Can someone help me out. Examples below... :43 :00

Portamento?

Also, damn you for posting Ravers Fantasy. That track is the bane of my existence. I know I should hate everything about it, it's incredibly cheesy, but I don't.

I want to hate it so bad because it's so stupid, but I don't.

Stupid Raver's Fantasy.

ravers fantasy choon! xD the music i listened in my youth... don't regret.

Vanguard is a good vst for bass and arps achievieng this sounds with it will be difficult if you want something of this kind try Z3ta or Lennar Sylenth , i made something similar from scracth with Z3ta, alternatively the nexus expansions offer presets of the kind

@Pagan-za: I agree Vanguard is not nearly the best, but passable. Albino 3 certainly has a lot of tweaks and is really powerful, but I just can't get my my arms around it :S. I see hardly anything on it also, except from Albino himself. They need to come out with some really solid trance presets for it. That'd be awesome.

@Seandroid: Yeah portamento/glide. I can't get it the way it sounds in these tracks. It's driving me nuts. And I'm really sorry I'm just a sucker for the cheesy stuff XD. That synth lead is just so solid in my opinion, and I love the bass. So heavy.

@Rodri Santos: Right on! I do own z3ta so I'll try it with that I reckon. Too poor to buy Nexus and all those damn expansions :\

Re: How do you make a gliding trance/techno synth?

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Originally posted by OOPS! I asked a similar question to this but didn't receive much help/clarity at all. I'm wondering how to make a gliding lower/higher octave synth. I tried doing this is in Vanguard, putting a bit of glide on the notes, overlapping them and such but I just can't get it to sound right. I see no tutorial anywhere. Can someone help me out. Examples below... :43 :00

*hits play on raver's fantasy



Have you played with pitch bend at all? Like the pitch bend wheel on a keyboard? Even automating it if you have too.

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Originally posted by OOPS! @Pagan-za: I agree Vanguard is not nearly the best, but passable. Albino 3 certainly has a lot of tweaks and is really powerful, but I just can't get my my arms around it :S. I see hardly anything on it also, except from Albino himself. They need to come out with some really solid trance presets for it. That'd be awesome. @Seandroid: Yeah portamento/glide. I can't get it the way it sounds in these tracks. It's driving me nuts. And I'm really sorry I'm just a sucker for the cheesy stuff XD. That synth lead is just so solid in my opinion, and I love the bass. So heavy. @Rodri Santos: Right on! I do own z3ta so I'll try it with that I reckon. Too poor to buy Nexus and all those damn expansions :\

OOPS, that is one of the reasons I stayed away from Albino for quite a while, it has never had a huge bank of presets and they are relatively rare to find, however I ended up reading the manual over and over and then sitting down and messing with it alot, and it really is a really powerful synth once you understand whats happening under the hood.

Most of the time these days I just create my own patches anyway, using one of the default ones as a base to start, once you know where to look its a quick and easy job to change it the way you want.

Its glide I'm particularly fond of though, its incredibly easy to get it sounding just the way you want it as it has 3 different glide settings as well as a curve setting, so it is actually really easy to set up just right. Combine that with seperate envelopes for all 4 oscillators as well as both filters and amp and you have a ton of control over the sound.

As for bending leads though, in the presets section, the Synth Leads are mostly bending leads, it helps alot to try deconstruct them but most of the sound is achieved through the modulation matrix and the glide settings. If you want your sound to change just add a bit of glide, and then start assigning lfo's in the mod matrix. About the only problem I have with vanguard is that I cant automate things in the mod matrix, although being able to automate the actual lfo's for it does help a bit to work around it.


Back to vanguard though, this is a case where reading the manual is a good thing, not all the oscillators can be modulated and the names are not really obvious either. An example being the Sine FM and AM osc's. Sine FM is actually a frequency modulated sine wave while the AM is an amplitude modulated sine wave. The osc's that have PWM in their names can be modulated of course, but there are a few others that can too, but you'd only know that by reading the manual or by fiddling with them.

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