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Posted by movingincircles on Mar-30-2011 20:23:

PvD takes another stab at Tiesto

Trance music has been prominent in the mainstream media lately with Armin van Buuren and Tiesto collaborating with artists like Sophie Ellis-Bexter and Busta Rhymes � do you think it could be the year of trance, and have you got any collaborations in the pipeline?

With the greatest of respect for my colleagues, Tiesto�s track �C�mon (Catch �em by Surprise)� is not really a trance record � it�s radio-friendly hip-hop with a dude rapping over the top of it and is not really suitable for playing in a club. I don�t make a difference between trance, tech-trance and house, etc.; for me it�s all electronic music and some of it�s good and some of it�s not so good for my taste. I don�t agree with this merging of R&B and hip-hop with electronic music, because our music has never been about bling and showing off. One of the topics at a Winter Music Conference lecture I was at just now was about how we go about handling cheesy pop overkill in electronic music sounds. But in four or five months� time, dance music won�t be commercially cool anymore and guitar bands will be back. It�s always the same cycle.

Uhhh, has anyone listened to Paul van Dyk - Knowledge?


Posted by RebeL9 on Mar-30-2011 20:25:

PvD is a cock cutter sucker.


Posted by Trance-M on Mar-30-2011 20:36:

That's not how I read it. The question assumes Tiesto is making trance now and Paul just says it's not.

But who is we in "about how we go about handling cheesy pop overkill in electronic music sounds."?

I don't think that overkill can be regulated anyways.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Mar-30-2011 20:37:

Thumbs up

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
PvD is a cock cutter sucker.


Posted by srussell0018 on Mar-30-2011 20:38:

Saying that he doesn't care for electronic music being mixed with hip hop or R&B isn't really "taking a stab" at Tiesto. He's just saying he doesn't like that kind of music, which is perfectly reasonable.


Posted by jayxthekoolest on Mar-30-2011 20:47:

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quote:
Originally posted by movingincircles
Trance music has been prominent in the mainstream media lately with Armin van Buuren and Tiesto collaborating with artists like Sophie Ellis-Bexter and Busta Rhymes � do you think it could be the year of trance, and have you got any collaborations in the pipeline?

With the greatest of respect for my colleagues, Tiesto�s track �C�mon (Catch �em by Surprise)� is not really a trance record � it�s radio-friendly hip-hop with a dude rapping over the top of it and is not really suitable for playing in a club. I don�t make a difference between trance, tech-trance and house, etc.; for me it�s all electronic music and some of it�s good and some of it�s not so good for my taste. I don�t agree with this merging of R&B and hip-hop with electronic music, because our music has never been about bling and showing off. One of the topics at a Winter Music Conference lecture I was at just now was about how we go about handling cheesy pop overkill in electronic music sounds. But in four or five months� time, dance music won�t be commercially cool anymore and guitar bands will be back. It�s always the same cycle.

Uhhh, has anyone listened to Paul van Dyk - Knowledge?




I think Paul van Dyk needs to realize the difference between having an opinion, and what he should tell the public - no matter how strongly he believes in his opinion or even if he has to tell a "white lie". That is, I don't see the reason why he should ever insult or say something negative about an artist like Tiesto considering he's about at Tiesto's level. He's better off doing what he likes to do, and saying nice things about everyone else. I mean if he think Tiesto has a crap record or the idea of that kind of collaboration is horrible music, all he should say is either "no comment" or "that's not my style". Saying that he thinks it's bad music just makes him look like a jerk, despite his best intentions of probably telling what he actually thinks.


Posted by enydo on Mar-30-2011 20:51:

Wow, what an absolutely insightful quote from PvD. Truly opened my eyes to new avenues in the world, and the fact that trance isn't about bling and showing off!

Certainly not!


Posted by jupiterone on Mar-30-2011 20:56:


Posted by Chimney on Mar-30-2011 21:42:

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Originally posted by jayxthekoolest
I think Paul van Dyk needs to realize the difference between having an opinion, and what he should tell the public - no matter how strongly he believes in his opinion or even if he has to tell a "white lie". That is, I don't see the reason why he should ever insult or say something negative about an artist like Tiesto considering he's about at Tiesto's level. He's better off doing what he likes to do, and saying nice things about everyone else. I mean if he think Tiesto has a crap record or the idea of that kind of collaboration is horrible music, all he should say is either "no comment" or "that's not my style". Saying that he thinks it's bad music just makes him look like a jerk, despite his best intentions of probably telling what he actually thinks.

EDIT: I just listened to pvd - knowledge. I see your point. He must just think that's "good music" since he made it and is attached to it. I bet he has it made up in his mind that Tiesto just makes commercial tunes.


No matter how shit music PvD will ever make, he won't label it as "trance", "house", "techno" or other consumer name. He always calls it "electronic music".

Sure, PvD has gone down the shithole, but at least he ain't a hypocrite like so many others.


Posted by jayxthekoolest on Mar-30-2011 21:45:

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Originally posted by Chimney
No matter how shit music PvD will ever make, he won't label it as "trance", "house", "techno" or other consumer name. He always calls it "electronic music".

Sure, PvD has gone down the shithole, but at least he ain't a hypocrite like so many others.


Well, I actually like what PvD's doing these days. And I agree with what you said, I just believe he needs to think a little bit more about his public image than he does.


Posted by Chimney on Mar-30-2011 21:47:

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Originally posted by jayxthekoolest
I just think he needs to think a little bit more about his public image than he does.


He's German. Germans usually don't bullshit.


Posted by jayxthekoolest on Mar-30-2011 21:48:

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Originally posted by Chimney
He's German. Germans usually don't bullshit.


Oh, well if that's the case, then maybe my problem is that I'm American.


Posted by srussell0018 on Mar-30-2011 21:51:

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quote:
Originally posted by jayxthekoolest
Oh, well if that's the case, then maybe my problem is that I'm American.


That is always a problem.


Posted by jayxthekoolest on Mar-30-2011 21:53:

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Originally posted by srussell0018
That is always a problem.


I'd rather live here than Europe. That's for sure.


Posted by srussell0018 on Mar-30-2011 21:55:

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Originally posted by jayxthekoolest
I'd rather live here than Europe. That's for sure.


That's because you've never lived there before Ignorance is bliss.


Posted by jayxthekoolest on Mar-30-2011 21:59:

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Originally posted by srussell0018
That's because you've never lived there before Ignorance is bliss.


I actually have, and there's this really cool thing you can do in America that Europeans seemingly haven't heard of. It's called bathing regularly.


Posted by jupiterone on Mar-30-2011 22:30:

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Originally posted by jayxthekoolest
I actually have, and there's this really cool thing you can do in America that Europeans seemingly haven't heard of. It's called taking a bathing regularly.


something a typical ignorant moron would say


Posted by jayxthekoolest on Mar-30-2011 22:43:

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quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
something a typical ignorant moron would say



Posted by netroM on Mar-30-2011 23:08:

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Originally posted by jayxthekoolest

I have read your post and it is obviously your a foggot.


Posted by jayxthekoolest on Mar-30-2011 23:16:

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Originally posted by netroM
I have read your post and it is obviously your a foggot.


You should learn how to spell words such as "you are" or "******" or "obvious" correctly because when everyone reads your post they're thinking:


Posted by netroM on Mar-30-2011 23:28:

bah, forgot a "that" in there

http://www.27bslash6.com/foggot.html


Posted by jayxthekoolest on Mar-30-2011 23:43:

quote:
Originally posted by netroM
bah, forgot a "that" in there

http://www.27bslash6.com/foggot.html


Don't worry, by now everyone thinks PvD, Deadmau5, you and I are all idiots. So you're not alone.


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Mar-30-2011 23:47:

paul van dyk is the master, how dare you speak of him in that matter. I hope you all suffer and burn for your transgressions


Posted by nefardec on Mar-30-2011 23:50:

certainly not about showing off





the real slim shady







what a dick.


PS


Posted by movingincircles on Mar-31-2011 00:14:

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