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Posted by Zlaught on Apr-03-2011 11:28:

Music analyzing software?

Does a software program that can analyze any song I import into it exist, I guess what I mean is IE: What notes or chords or volume are being played etc etc etc...

I know for guitar there's sites that exist that can give you the notes that are played in a song and the same goes for piano and I'm sure many other instruments, so I was just wondering if something similar(but perhaps much more in depth and of higher quality, I guess I mean more features, more information about the song) to this existed for music analyization at a higher level I guess is what I mean.

Also if such a program existed it wouldn't have to be trance specific, I wouldn't mind analyzing classical/pop/rap/metal etc... songs to help me see what works in those genres and why.

please no one respond with "just listen with your ears"; although obviously I understand the point of your argument and it is a very valid argument, I personally think it would be beneficial to me to own such a program if it exists.

Also I would like to apologize for my ignorance, since all I have really done is taken information from the community and have nothing in return to give back to it since I am such a novice at this point in time and have no advice to offer.

Anyways if you have any input on this that would be awesome

Thanks and Kind Regards,
Zlaught


Posted by kitphillips on Apr-03-2011 12:53:

Re: Music analyzing software?

quote:
Originally posted by Zlaught
analyization

novice


Indeed.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Apr-03-2011 13:14:

Re: Music analyzing software?

quote:
Originally posted by Zlaught
please no one respond with "just listen with your ears"; although obviously I understand the point of your argument and it is a very valid argument, I personally think it would be beneficial to me to own such a program if it exists.

It would be even more beneficial to you if you learned to figure out the chord structures yourself.


Posted by music2dance2 on Apr-03-2011 15:33:

Melodyne is something that might help you


Posted by EddieZilker on Apr-03-2011 16:26:

Everyone has the most amazing music analysis software right at their disposal. It's not something you can download from a torrent and you can't install it on your computer. It's far more powerful than every piece of music software available, combined. Do you know what that is? Do you?















It's your mind!


Posted by Zlaught on Apr-03-2011 21:48:

quote:
Originally posted by music2dance2
Melodyne is something that might help you


Thanks man this is something I will definitely have to look into, it seems very interesting.



Although what I'm looking for is a program that allows you to insert an already made song into it and it will visually show you the song.


Posted by Kysora on Apr-03-2011 21:50:

I'm fairly certain we're a few years away from that level of consumer-level technology. Melodyne's about the best you're going to get


Posted by Zlaught on Apr-03-2011 21:50:

Re: Re: Music analyzing software?

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
It would be even more beneficial to you if you learned to figure out the chord structures yourself.


Couldn't agree more, that's why I intend to do both.


Posted by Zlaught on Apr-03-2011 22:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Kysora
I'm fairly certain we're a few years away from that level of consumer-level technology. Melodyne's about the best you're going to get


Thanks for the reply, I guess this sums up my question unless someone else maybe knows of such software technology.


Also is there a thread that has a list of all available software programs? Like IE: I haven't even heard of Melodyne until today yet it is something that I think I may want to get; and if there are other such tools out there that I think I may find useful I'd like to know about them.


Much thanks to those with actual responses
Zlaught


Posted by DJRYAN™ on Apr-04-2011 02:35:

Mixed in Key is soooooo much better... imo


Posted by sako487 on Apr-04-2011 08:35:

its not really that hard to pull out a midi from a track just by listening to it..just takes time


Posted by kitphillips on Apr-04-2011 08:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Zlaught
Thanks man this is something I will definitely have to look into, it seems very interesting.



Although what I'm looking for is a program that allows you to insert an already made song into it and it will visually show you the song.


But could you read the notation it spat out once the song was analysed?

quote:
Originally posted by DJRYAN™
Mixed in Key is soooooo much better... imo


What are you even talking about MIK is all about identifying a key of a track, melodyne is FAR more detailed and gives you the chords and timing. How about getting a clue before giving advice.


Posted by music2dance2 on Apr-04-2011 11:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Zlaught
Thanks man this is something I will definitely have to look into, it seems very interesting.



Although what I'm looking for is a program that allows you to insert an already made song into it and it will visually show you the song.


I seriously doubt there is anything out there that can allow you to disect a complete song for you to visually see all parts indiviually? If that is what you want?

Melodyne can give notes chords and much much more, it works best with less parts playing.

There are audio to midi programs that give you midi notes/chords of a melody from a song, but it depends how clear the track is, i.e. a melody or chord progression during a break down, when the full track is playing everything is converted to midi and it comes out as garbage.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Apr-04-2011 18:45:

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips

What are you even talking about MIK is all about identifying a key of a track, melodyne is FAR more detailed and gives you the chords and timing. How about getting a clue before giving advice.


why do you even bother talking to that guy? didnt you see the name?


Posted by vinceGOLD on Apr-05-2011 02:13:

AudioScore Ultimate.......

Zlaught,

Hello.

This software tool below....it can take into it any mp3 song
file and then it shows you all the notes being played and from
that you would also chords....the Melody....the Lead lines. The
structure and any patterns in the song..

Ofcourse, Trance is just filled with repetative patterns...these
would immeditaetly show up....in the results...

It isn't a free tool....so there is the issue....perhaps...

i don't like recommending s/w that isn't free...that's just
because with enough time....you may be able to find free stuff...
(just an opinion of mine)


http://www.neuratron.com/audioscore.htm

Melodyne i am not sure about. Melodyne has the DNA feature....so it will open an mp3 file but it won't find stuff if the song is in "different sounding" types of musical instruments....

that's my understanding....yeah...

There is also another tool which can look at an mp3 song and it
can "seperate" the different "tracks" that are playing....such as say
"strings chords" and then a melody of a piano......(shows you the components of the different tracks of sound in the mixed song.

You can then "delete" certain tracks of sound like say a piano melody....and put it into just "one" music file for your interest...
"export it"

the tool is called Hit'n'mix and there is a better version due for
release in say a reasonable "update" time frame.

Again, that tool is not free.....Zlaught.

thanks

Vince.


Posted by kitphillips on Apr-05-2011 03:17:

Wat... WAT... WAT...


Posted by Scrittah on Apr-05-2011 03:28:

this... is... amazing!...










I... am... ACTING...!


Posted by sicc on Apr-06-2011 02:21:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
Everyone has the most amazing music analysis software right at their disposal. It's not something you can download from a torrent and you can't install it on your computer. It's far more powerful than every piece of music software available, combined. Do you know what that is? Do you?


That was awesome Eddie. As I was reading it I was like...hmm i wonder wtf this program is...then BAM...DUHH ITS TEH BRAINNN














It's your mind! [/QUOTE]


Posted by itsamemario on Apr-06-2011 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by sicc
That was awesome Eddie. As I was reading it I was like...hmm i wonder wtf this program is...then BAM...DUHH ITS TEH BRAINNN














It's your mind!
[/QUOTE]

lol, i got it right away :P it was veeery clear from the first ssentence imo :P


Posted by EddieZilker on Apr-06-2011 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_alfi


lol, i got it right away :P it was veeery clear from the first ssentence imo :P


It helps the intended effect if you hear it in your head as though Doug Henning were saying it to you.


Posted by itsamemario on Apr-06-2011 22:42:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
It helps the intended effect if you hear it in your head as though Doug Henning were saying it to you.


lol creepy


Posted by ACK5 on May-01-2011 10:07:

Hi bru here is a link that will show you exactly what to do. Its no software though and it might take a few practice rounds before you get it right. There is 5 videos and everything you need to know is explained in a simple and understandable way.

Hope this helps


http://trancemusicmastery.com/music...ode-part-1-2811


Posted by arskinetica on May-03-2011 17:42:

I think these analysis tools are useful, but they are no substitute for practicing and transcribing/sequencing.

It's still a bit annoying, but composing is basically getting down what's in your head vs. copying what someone else has already done.

It's like Autotune.

I think pitch correction is a great thing. You have that once in a lifetime performance that's ruined by a sour note. That makes it salvageable, and it still has use as an effect, someone just needs to find a way.


Posted by arskinetica on May-03-2011 17:47:

I've been doing the same thing with EQ, using an SSL console style EQ instead of a graphical EQ.

It's a lot harder, but it is teaching me to know more.

Speaking of, what do you guys use for analyzing your mixes graphically?


Posted by arskinetica on May-03-2011 17:48:

spectral analysis and whatnot



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