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Posted by Evolve140 on Apr-05-2011 06:50:

Progressive (trance? lol) W.I.P.

http://soundcloud.com/tilda140/86668650-0476456678w754
woops, here it is..
86668650-0476456678w754 by tilda140

Will continue to work on this the next couple of days. Feedback welcome/helpful

Btw: I finished that last track Meant to be broken with my friend, PM me for a link =]


Posted by Richard Butler on Apr-05-2011 15:02:

Not feeling this one in danceability terms, but maybe your'e not thinking so much about dance per see?

Some nice sounds in there, but overall not as favourable as your other tracks for me.


Posted by Evolve140 on Apr-05-2011 16:11:

Hmm, what is a turn off the most? I just thought it sounded kinda trancey. For me the drums are the weakest part. It would be nice to rework it for more dancability and keep the parts I like.


Posted by sicc on Apr-05-2011 20:30:

I really like the sidechained saw lead. The metallic sounding pluck was pretty awesome but it seemed to take up the same space as the saw lead, I was worried that all the sounds would be in that low-mid range, but then the brighter stabs came in and I liked them a lot. In my opinion this track needs drive; as Richard Butler said, this isnt something you could dance too. Although while i produce i dont really think such things as danceability, I like to here a good groove that gets my head bobbing. Groove and some drive and this would be an awesome track. Good work man, sounds really nice.


Posted by Evolve140 on Apr-05-2011 20:37:

I can see what you mean. I think the drums are just hindering the drive. I feel like the synths move along quite well but get stuck in the mud. So thanks for checking it out guys, I see what you mean. I'm glad you dig some of the elements though. I like the saw, too. I was trying to be emotional but not too cheesy, y'know? I'm still open to other's thoughts as well so let me know guys, thanks.


Posted by Beatflux on Apr-05-2011 21:18:

quote:
Originally posted by sicc
this isnt something you could dance too.


I can dance to this. Hahaha


Some of the drive is coming from the mid bass. Especially when the mid bass leaps upward. Most of the rhythms are pretty plain. That pitched down FX sounds really out of place.


Posted by EddieZilker on Apr-05-2011 21:59:

I like this and hope it's on the list of stuff to finish. Really liking your ideas, here.


Posted by Evolve140 on Apr-05-2011 22:14:

@BF, what timing on that fx? Not sure what you mean.

And thanks Eddie, with any luck I'll be back at it tonight.


Posted by tehlord on Apr-05-2011 22:28:

I'm hearing a lot of good stuff here that's not quite pulling itself all together....yet.

Reverb work is very good, and i'm a bit of a sucka for good reverb work.

Will there be an update soon?!


Posted by Evolve140 on Apr-05-2011 22:40:

Yeah man, I have set aside this evening to work on it more. *puff puff*


Posted by Beatflux on Apr-05-2011 23:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
@BF, what timing on that fx? Not sure what you mean.

And thanks Eddie, with any luck I'll be back at it tonight.


Right in the middle, it sounds like a turn table FX.


Posted by Evolve140 on Apr-06-2011 00:38:

Oh yeah, haha. It's kind of like a place holder. Doesn't serve much purpose.


Posted by Evolve140 on Apr-06-2011 01:06:

86668650-0476456678w756124464464734 by tilda140

I think that's gonna be it for tonight! But progress has been made. As far as "improvement", my ears are toast! So we'll see


Posted by Vancouver on Apr-06-2011 01:54:

I have to say that I really like the updated version! Sounds groovey and smooth. The melody you bring in at 2 mins is class and I hope on a future update you do more with it cuz I wanted to hear it play through again! good work


Posted by sicc on Apr-06-2011 02:11:

Progress indeed! The lead saw has improved a lot, the riff has that groove I was looking for that moved my body. When all the elements of your track are playing at the same time (specifically beginning at around 1 min, after the first drop) its hard to notice the kick; It seems to get buried under everything else. Maybe bring up the kick to give it more presence, unless its a case of bass frequencies canceling each other out, which I doubt is the case. I must say I dont like the snare very much, and in my opinion it is to loud - thats the only thing about the track I honestly do not like. That melody that comes in around 2 min is fucking awesome, it felt undone though because it just kind of stopped. Complete that beautiful creation sir! I love the stabs of the brighter synths that come in in a rolling manner. It adds just what is needed with that saw lead. I really like this track, awesome progress!


Also, what VST or hardware did you use to get that fat saw lead? I really like it!


Posted by Evolve140 on Apr-06-2011 06:05:

sicc:Thanks man, will def. keep all that in mind. The snare did have a little iffy fit in the mix when I finished it's a tiny bit loud or something, but my ears were toast I didn't know if I could trust what I heard. It's the Jupiter v8 VST. The synths are either Predator or Jupiter v8. Glad you are digging it so far!

van: now that you mention it one more time through that soaring melody in the breakdown couldn't hurt! glad it's sounding a little more groovy, that's basically what i sat down to do. also glad u dig the melody, good stuff


Posted by Evolve140 on Apr-07-2011 01:09:

Did some more work, the snare was an EQ thing I think.. should sound a little better now. Bridged the breakdown a little better, some other stuff I hope you dig
86668650-0476456678w75612446446473344r3434 by tilda140

* only thing i can noticably say is a bit much is the "metallic" rhythm synth during the breakdown, will tame that during the next session, that and i accidently exported the last quarter of a bar during the first part of the track. hehe.


Posted by sicc on Apr-07-2011 04:33:

The has way more presence which is awesome. IN MY OPINION...the snare seems to be a little high still, but that might be what YOU want in the track. The melody in the brakedown starting at 1:50 is awesome BUT; When the kick and snare comes back in it feels like it went no where. I would love to here the melody played out when it all comes back in for a more beautiful progression or something. Good work! ive enjoyed following your progress on this track, quite inspiring I must say as ive been rather un-motivated lately.

oh one last thing, after the first drop, when it all comes back in, I think some subtle yet grooving cymbals and other percussive elements would really bring some groove and rhythm to the track as a whole. just an idea! I like this track a lot!


Posted by Vancouver on Apr-07-2011 06:17:

I think the snare sounds ok. As far as the melody at 1:50 I actually like how it sidechains off once the beat comes in but I think the whole thing would come together nicer if you built up the melody to a bit of a climax instead of having it kind of hover around in the break. The song is pretty short so maybe bring the melody back in with the beat afterwards. But thats obviously just my taste and as it is now I still enjoy.


Posted by Evolve140 on Apr-08-2011 06:04:

Thanks guys, I do thrive on feedback. I have a superficial question about this track though, and it may be a stupid question since the track isn't even complete yet, but here it is: does it sound professional?


Posted by sicc on Apr-08-2011 08:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Evolve140
Thanks guys, I do thrive on feedback. I have a superficial question about this track though, and it may be a stupid question since the track isn't even complete yet, but here it is: does it sound professional?


That fat bassy type saw lead has defiantly been a pretty big trend in most popular trance and electro house recently. has been for a while,so on that level i would say so, but that question is very superficial xD

I think the rolling stabs are awesome and the mixdown is clean. The synths I guess you oculd say are very "high quality" or "professional" sounding. I like the melodies and progression. This is all just MY opinion. I dont really feel right labeling things professional since the definition of a profession is along the lines of doing something and getting paid to do it. Music is music, its what you make it, what you want it to be, for me anyways its an expression of intangible emotion perhaps, along with passion and connection. idk i dont wanna get all philosophical but i really like this track


Posted by Evolve140 on Apr-08-2011 18:59:

i agree, and philosophy is okay too. that was a 3-4 beer question. it was probably just to stroke my own ego on a very minute level, but sometimes the tune gets lost in my head! also, it would be nice not to be continuing certain amateurish practices if i am indeed engaged in them. it is possible after a certain point though, it just becomes what you mentioned



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