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Posted by jupiterone on Apr-19-2011 20:13:

fallout : new vegas. anyone play?

anyone here play/has played it? it's on xbox marketplace for 30$ now and have wanted it for a while, but trying to get some opinions on whether it's really worth purchasing

thanks bitches


Posted by srussell0018 on Apr-19-2011 20:15:

Have you played any of the other Fallout games?


Posted by jupiterone on Apr-19-2011 20:17:

i played fallout 3 and loved it, how does NV compare to 3?


Posted by infinity HiGH on Apr-19-2011 20:22:

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
i played fallout 3 and loved it, how does NV compare to 3?


Just as good, if not better. However, I played 3 so much that I got bored of NV after a while (a pretty long while though).


Posted by srussell0018 on Apr-19-2011 20:29:

Yeah if you liked 3 you'll like NV. There weren't too many drastic changes made to it, but it's still a really good game.


Posted by EddieZilker on Apr-19-2011 20:36:

Re: fallout : new vegas. anyone play?

It's probably my most played game but then I've had the entire Fallout series, at one point or another. If you're an old-school Fallout fan, you'll love some of the revisions and additions to the weapon's table well beyond the scope of the previous Fallout 3. One negative thing I can say about it is that I think the iron-sights option is a bit over-sold and unwieldy. That said, I still use it.

Another is that navigating to and through your home-base (The presidential suite of Mr. House's Casino) and then back out into the real-world, can be downright tedious. North Vegas Square is pretty much a load screen gate-way junction where you will need to enter the square (load-screen 1), enter the casino, (load-screen 2), get on the elevator (load-screen 3), and repeat the last two, on your way back out, at which point you can fast-travel to any known location.

Once you get into game-play, though, take everything you liked about the first Fallout 3 and add the new guns, percs (some of them old-school, as well), and a few new enemies, and it can be enormous fun. My favorite parts have been shelling with a grenade launcher and sniping from elevated positions, of which there are many, into enemy positions.

While less dramatic, there are many competing story-lines, between House, NCR, Legion, Yes Man and perhaps a couple of others, which make for interesting decision making, depending on your character's nature. The Karma feature is also a little more nuanced, allowing for you to be despised by one group while being idolized by another (even though you can still wind up getting red-options when taking from people who have every reason for loathing you - like when you shell their outpost from a cliff-top).


Posted by jupiterone on Apr-19-2011 20:41:

i should probably do research on this question but: how is the weapon customizing like? how extensive is it really


Posted by srussell0018 on Apr-19-2011 20:47:

I'd say extensive, to quite extensive.


Posted by EddieZilker on Apr-19-2011 20:50:

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
i should probably do research on this question but: how is the weapon customizing like? how extensive is it really


I have a .357 with an elongated barrel and an upgraded cylinder, and I'm pretty sure you can get a scope, too, but I've since shelved that item. A lot of weapons, such as .357 and the Cowboy Repeater, have extensive modifications available which enhance how the weapon operates, how quickly it degrades, velocity, optics, silencers, barrels, and increased capacity magazines.

You can also mod ammo, like double charging for energy weapons.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Apr-19-2011 20:54:

I thought Fallout 3 was really lacklustre. I had a good time, but it did not live up to expectation. New Vegas was much better though, if you ask me - I loved the characters, the dialogue, the great weapon modification system, the sheer breadth of quests and eventual long-term outcomes including, what? 6 very different endings? Highly recommended, and definitely worth it if you liked Fallout 3, but for 360? EH!


Posted by stren on Apr-19-2011 21:52:

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
i should probably do research on this question but: how is the weapon customizing like? how extensive is it really


not extensive enough for me. I don't remember using it really, unless you count making better ammo for it


Game is good though


Posted by D-res on Apr-19-2011 23:19:

Re: Re: fallout : new vegas. anyone play?

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
Another is that navigating to and through your home-base (The presidential suite of Mr. House's Casino) and then back out into the real-world, can be downright tedious. North Vegas Square is pretty much a load screen gate-way junction where you will need to enter the square (load-screen 1), enter the casino, (load-screen 2), get on the elevator (load-screen 3), and repeat the last two, on your way back out, at which point you can fast-travel to any known location.


That's why I prefer the hotel room you get for helping Manny/Boon (can't remember which) in Novac. Plenty of storage, not tedious, and right by a decent merchant.

OP, get it. Great game, coming from another F3 fan. The map's even bigger and there's some 200+ locations without any of the dlcs.


Posted by jupiterone on Apr-19-2011 23:43:

thanks guys, purchased


Posted by igottaknow on Apr-19-2011 23:48:

fallout: japan. is it too soon?


Posted by EddieZilker on Apr-20-2011 00:32:

Re: Re: Re: fallout : new vegas. anyone play?

quote:
Originally posted by D-res
That's why I prefer the hotel room you get for helping Manny/Boon (can't remember which) in Novac. Plenty of storage, not tedious, and right by a decent merchant.

OP, get it. Great game, coming from another F3 fan. The map's even bigger and there's some 200+ locations without any of the dlcs.


It's Boon - but I only remember that because it's the name of our dog (Boon the Dog predates FONV, btw).


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-20-2011 00:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
I thought Fallout 3 was really lacklustre.


My main issue was the thoroughly underwhelming story that was ridiculously short. I find most of these truly open-world games really struggle to compete in this regard against the more scripted offerings. That�s why I liked the middle-ground of divinity 2 (you should also check out kingdoms of amalur which sounds quite similar).


Posted by Ash Parajuli on Apr-20-2011 01:43:

I found the ending to Fallout 3 very disappointing and all the time I had spent going through the game to reach that point to have it end like that made me hate the game, but it also left me wanting for more which I guess I can get this. Is there a link between Fallout 3 and this game in the sense do I have to create a new character or does it import your old character info etc.


Posted by enydo on Apr-20-2011 10:39:

Held my attention a lot longer than Fallout 3.


Posted by EddieZilker on Apr-20-2011 14:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Ash Parajuli
I found the ending to Fallout 3 very disappointing and all the time I had spent going through the game to reach that point to have it end like that made me hate the game, but it also left me wanting for more which I guess I can get this. Is there a link between Fallout 3 and this game in the sense do I have to create a new character or does it import your old character info etc.


Unfortunately, no. It's not an expansion pack (The Fallout 3 Expansion Pack didn't do much for me) and there's so many tweaks on how the character is invented and progresses, that, and I'm just supposing here, such an option was deemed incompatible. That said, there's not so much added that it will be unfamiliar, much of it fitting in intuitively, and a lot of what they did was to restore a lot of the old-school conventions that made the first two interesting.


Posted by Ted Promo on Apr-20-2011 16:32:

I preferred New Vegas over 3 overall. I felt that they improved much of the decision-making and the tangible affects associated with it. They also improved mechanics of things (notably repairing your weapon past a certain point doesn't require your repair skill to get beyond a certain threshold). Modding the weapons is a bonus.

I found myself more attached to the storyline and environments of Fallout 3. The plot in New Vegas is more intricate, but the character you play is harder to like just because of how arbitrary they appear to be (a courier as opposed to someone from the Vault that you sorta grow with). I found the cities to be a bit less intriguing. It was a bit underwhelming to finally get into the Vegas Strip and find out it's about 8 buildings all told and you can breeze through it in 2 minutes after the gauntlet of loading screens.

But overall there's much more to explore in New Vegas. Complete with a more intricate and interwoven story, more options to keep combat interesting (although V.A.T.S. seems to be a bit clunkier and you take more damage in it this go-around), and the ability to develop a 3-person party that you can stash items on and whatnot, New Vegas > 3 imoimoimo


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Apr-20-2011 18:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
New Vegas > 3 imoimoimo


INCORRECT! P'SHAWP'SHAWP'SHAW

The casinos did seem disappointingly empty.

But c'mon- it's all about the hardcore mode. You have to drink water and sleep and eat, or else you suffer. Weapons degrade much faster, things are way harder- it's greatness, save for the fact that shit can survive 5 consecutive headshots from a high-powered rifle???

I will say that neither Fallout has a vehicle in it, and that is sad. Even Fallout 2 had the Highwayman. It'd be awesome to have a little desert buggy you can fix up and stuff - or even mounted combat. Some serious Road Warrior shit. Maybe they're saving that for Fallout: New Sydney.


Posted by EddieZilker on Apr-20-2011 18:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
INCORRECT! P'SHAWP'SHAWP'SHAW

The casinos did seem disappointingly empty.

But c'mon- it's all about the hardcore mode. You have to drink water and sleep and eat, or else you suffer. Weapons degrade much faster, things are way harder- it's greatness, save for the fact that shit can survive 5 consecutive headshots from a high-powered rifle???

I will say that neither Fallout has a vehicle in it, and that is sad. Even Fallout 2 had the Highwayman. It'd be awesome to have a little desert buggy you can fix up and stuff - or even mounted combat. Some serious Road Warrior shit. Maybe they're saving that for Fallout: New Sydney.


Ah! A fellow hard-core player.


There was a post-apocalyptic Road-Warrior/Demolition Derby game on the old, (old, old, old, old) Apple IIc computer, I used to have. Lots of fun and you had mods you could get for the cars. I do wish Fallout would make a vehicle born series, or at least provide something in the way of an expansion pack. I loved that you could keep a bunch of stuff in the Highwayman's trunk, and combat could be really interesting, that way.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Apr-20-2011 19:02:

You had vehicular combat levels in Fallout Tactics, if I recall. But that entire game was so meh.


Posted by EddieZilker on Apr-20-2011 19:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
...Fallout Tactics...


I can't believe, I completely missed this.


But since it wasn't up to snuff, I suppose that's okay. But still... Now I'll have to find YouTubes.


Posted by EddieZilker on Apr-20-2011 19:24:

Found YouTubes. Definitely see the meh. Great premise, though.



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