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Posted by andr0meda on Apr-24-2011 01:35:

Hi-hat swing/groove...

Hey all,

I've been listening to a lot of work from Mat Zo lately and he has some pretty basic-sounding but moving groove to his drum programming. I was wondering how I would go about getting some swing like his?

I've included two examples from a remix he did for Tritonal.

The first example is the track untouched, so you can get a sense of the hihat groove he has.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5083124/hats1.wav

Here is the same clip, but, filtered a bit to cut off some low end yet leave enough to where the hihats are still there.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5083124/hats1_filtered.wav

Does he just use 16th notes of the same one-sample and then throw some swing and compression on them or are there multiple samples there and something besides 16th notes?

Posted by Subtle on Apr-24-2011 02:03:

I dont think its just the percussions that creates the groove, but rather how all the sounds interact with eacher, especially with the bass sounds.

Posted by Zak McKracken on Apr-24-2011 02:17:

shuffle?

Posted by sicc on Apr-24-2011 04:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
I dont think its just the percussions that creates the groove, but rather how all the sounds interact with eacher, especially with the bass sounds.

I completely agree with Subtle's observation. Also, it sounds like a pretty simple shaker percussion sample he is using in a pretty simple way. I think it mostly has to do with how ALL the elements blend together to great the groove.

Posted by Evolve140 on Apr-25-2011 00:02:

groove is built around the fact that the kick is always directly on meter. as opposed to a clap or something, you wouldn't take it off the grid for any reason. the only "hihats" to speak of are the shakers, which have very little swing on them at all. they are just sidechained 16th notes. it is most likely a contrasting effect you are hearing, pump+swing = groove

and to clarify, i meant the swing of other percussion or instruments. most of the groove or swing properties are in the bassline

Posted by Zak McKracken on Apr-25-2011 00:21:

Posted by Evolve140 on Apr-26-2011 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by clay

I mean, in this track. Maybe you could clarify what you are confused about.