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Posted by mr_sick on Aug-12-2002 08:53:

From vinyl to cd

Hello all!

I got my first gig this friday for my birthday party Will surely be great with like 100 ppl.

I have a little question... I always used turntables (since about 10 months) but I rent a pioneer cd player, so I can play some tracks that I never found on vinyl. But I never tried to mix with cd player.

I will have like 1 or 2 hours before the party to test it.

Any advice? Will it be difficult to adapt? Any1 who can explain me the correct way to use it? (or maybe a website which explain that)

Tnx for your answers

(I did a search but didn't find any topic about that... if this was already discussed plz gimme the link )

Posted by djxtension on Aug-12-2002 09:15:

Well, I switched from CD to vinyl, and that was a major improvent to me.

Anyways, what I can recommend you, is to practice with the cd-players for about 30 mins to an hour, so you get the feel of cd-mixing.

CD's mix a little different than turntables, so that's the main thing you'll have to worry about.

If already know how to beatmatch, mixing with cd;s won't be a to big problem...

Good luck, man!

Posted by b i n k u n on Aug-12-2002 09:32:

as soon as u get used to cueing w/ buttons, it's pretty much the same. not sure what version of the pioneer cd player you have, but basically, there's two big buttons, a play button and a stop/cue button. u play the track u wanna spin, press cue and that will set up a cue point in the track. u can adjust the cue point w/ the big circular thing most cdjs have. so everytime u press play, it will be like u releasing the track on vinyl on the bass kick.

other then that, it's pretty much the same, if there is a pitch bend button, that can be used to adjust the track, similar to touching the platter to slow down, or pushing the vinyl to speed up. i suggest u look for a master pitch button, or something similar where it locks the pitch of the track so when u make adjustments, no weird slow down speed up effects are added.

one last small detail, cdjs can only adjust to 0.1 bpms, so it is never TOTALLY accurate...but that will only affect you depending on how long ur transitions are, how u mix and whatever. best bet is to go as early as possible and just test it out. u should be able to get the hang of it quickly...cdjs were released with the intention of making it easy for vinyl djs to cross over to cds.

have fun dude and happy birthday!

Posted by mr_sick on Aug-12-2002 09:42:

Tnx for the infos I will know exactly what model tonight.

There will be two technics so I just wanna play like 3 or 4 cd tracks (Wink - Superfreak I loooove it).

I'll make a review of my birthday party next week

Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Aug-12-2002 15:30:

well, if you already beatmatch on the pitch, it wont be much of a change. getting used to the cueing system might be a little tricky at first, but thats pretty minor.

CD decks usually have a little quicker response on the pitch control - since there isnt a heavy platter that has to spin up or down, so you'll have to get used to that

some CD decks, like a denon i once used, have a delay between the pitch control and the pitch control effect - you can see it on the display, IE if your at -8% and move the control suddenly to the other end, you'll see the numbers fly by... this is a little tricky to get used to, but the idea behind it is to make the cd deck feel more like a turntable.

if I were you i'd just try to avoid the CD decks - the more vinyl you spin, the more of a show you put on, the better the sound is, and the more accurate your beatmatching will be

cd's are ghey :P

-mer

Posted by ampburner on Aug-12-2002 15:42:

quote:
Originally posted by MERiDiAN5i2
if I were you i'd just try to avoid the CD decks - the more vinyl you spin, the more of a show you put on, the better the sound is, and the more accurate your beatmatching will be

cd's are ghey :P

-mer

Posted by DJ LIQUID on Aug-12-2002 15:50:

enough ???

oh and happy birthday

Posted by Dj Thy on Aug-12-2002 15:56:

I'd say it all depends on how you are used to play on turntables...
If you are pitchbending by pushing or applying pressure on the platter, you may need some adaption time for playing on cd's. Not much though.
If you mix only by using the pitch slider, you won't have any problem at all.

The only difference I can see is that the pitch adjustment is less precise (when not using the CDJ1000 or cmx3000). You'll have a pitch precision of 0.1% (compared to analog precision on TT's), so you may need to adjust more often. Nothing to worry though.

As for instructions, I could give them, but I'm too lazy today. My advice, go to www.pioneerprodj.com. They have online manuals of their decks. I suggest you take a look at say the cdj500 (most used). Get to know how you set cuepoints and how to start/stop the player (I mean with stop, return to the cuepoint).
No need to read all the manuals. The basics are the same on all pio's. Very intuitive...

Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Aug-12-2002 16:04:

quote:
Originally posted by ampburner

Posted by ampburner on Aug-12-2002 16:34:

quote:
Originally posted by MERiDiAN5i2

Posted by Scottaculous on Aug-12-2002 17:20:

quote:
Originally posted by MERiDiAN5i2
well, if you already beatmatch on the pitch, it wont be much of a change. getting used to the cueing system might be a little tricky at first, but thats pretty minor.

CD decks usually have a little quicker response on the pitch control - since there isnt a heavy platter that has to spin up or down, so you'll have to get used to that

some CD decks, like a denon i once used, have a delay between the pitch control and the pitch control effect - you can see it on the display, IE if your at -8% and move the control suddenly to the other end, you'll see the numbers fly by... this is a little tricky to get used to, but the idea behind it is to make the cd deck feel more like a turntable.

if I were you i'd just try to avoid the CD decks - the more vinyl you spin, the more of a show you put on, the better the sound is, and the more accurate your beatmatching will be

cd's are ghey :P

-mer

Stop knocking cd players. The idea behind CD turntables is not to mimic turntables. The objective of any professional media player is to allow the controller the most control of his media. It just so happens CD players are like turntables because turntable offers the user a lot of control. They are just as valuable to a dj as turntables. :P Beatmatching is accomplished by the DJ not the equipment. Any limitation of equipment can be compensated by the skill of the DJ.

Mr_Sick:
The .1% pitch thing can be worked around if you adjust the pitch of the outgoing track instead of the incoming pitch. Because it is a percentage, adjusting the other pitch percentage might give you just enough to have everything beatmatched without continued adjustment. What you do is beatmatching both tracks as close as you can and then adjust the main channel track's pitch. The slight difference in pitch is inaudible to the audience.

Good luck and give them a show.

Posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on Aug-12-2002 18:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Scottaculous
Stop knocking cd players.

ok ok

Posted by mr_sick on Aug-13-2002 06:53:

Thanx for all your advices I'm really confident now, I'll try to beatmatch using only the pitch.

The player will be a Pioneer CDJ-100S, I found some info about it, I think it will be easy to use.

I will enjoy a lot

Posted by Sinonick on Aug-13-2002 16:32:

happy birthday dude