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Posted by gmilf on May-05-2011 04:17:

laptop questions

HP Beats laptop vs. macbook pro I know that the hp looks better on paper, but everyone who has ever had a macbook that I talk to seems to swear by them. Which is the better laptop? I will be doing some video editing, and a lot of traveling with whichever one I buy.

Mac=13999
13-inch: 2.7 GHz
2.7GHz dual-core
Intel Core i7
4GB 1333MHz
500GB 5400-rpm1
Intel HD Graphics 3000
Built-in battery (7 hours)2



HP=$967
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
� Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-740QM Quad Core processor (1.73GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) w/Turbo Boost up to 2.93 GHz
� 1GB DDR3 ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5650 graphics [HDMI] - For Quad Core Processors
� 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
� 640GB 7200RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
� No Additional Office Software
� 30% OFF! Two 8 Cell Lithium Ion Batteries (standard)
� 14.5" diagonal High Definition HP BrightView Infinity LED Display (1366x768)
� SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
� HP TrueVision HD Webcam
� Intel 802.11a/b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
� Red Backlit Keyboard
� Adobe(R) Photoshop(R) Elements 8 & Adobe Premiere(R) Elements 8


Posted by igottaknow on May-05-2011 04:59:

They're both going to be fast. Comes down to which software/OS you want to work with and whether your willing to pay the extra $400 for mac. I prefer video editing on the mac using FCP over Premiere but you will have to pay for that or use iMovie instead which is fine for consumer type movies. Depending on how you plan to import video firewire port is needed for non solid state cameras, the mac wins there.


Posted by knowhope on May-05-2011 05:07:

I been a windows user all my life, but after my dell studio 15 inch screwed me, i've bought my self the new generation of mac 15 in quad core.

TO be honest, i'm happy with my decision. The reason enjoy using this is because it's efficiency. The battery lasts longer. No over heating problem whatsoever. OS is much cleaner and simpler. It does have a fancy look, but it's not like Vista or Windows 7 where these OS use so much of their power for the the purdyness of the OS.

I'm not computer geek, but i've been using computers all my life. I enjoy the Mac, because it's much "cleaner".


Posted by r5a on May-05-2011 13:37:

ehh.

i went big and impulse bought a 17" macbook pro about 3 months ago. first time owning a mac. so heres my 2 cents

the argument that macs are for professionals and etc is bullshit. anything you need to do on a mac you can do in windows now with the same / better programs.

personally i enjoy my mac because of the RIDICULOUS battery life - its fucking long. longest ive ever seen in a laptop. that alone might justify the stupid prices apple has..

ive been able to kill this thing very easily in some usage (using a windows virtual machine in parallels in unity is extremely taxing for a 2.7k+ notebook. im not impressed.

id say you'd really have to look at what you want. if you're going to be doing a lot of nerding and crazy shit, id spend the 2.7 youd put into a mac and dump it into a tank windows notebook problem is your battery life will most likely blow cock.

tl;dr + notes
- macs are overpriced and your mostly paying for a name
- going big with mac isn't really going big - performance isnt as bmw as you thought it''d be
- windows can do all the same things a mac can
- windows battery usually blow ass
- mac is nice. so are windows.
- hp's a solid brand, good products and good support, probably your best bet. i can go on how many hp laptops ive used and they're rocks.
- if you get a mac you can always run boot camp for windows

(i use windows to blanket all the types of brands.. hp, asus, acer, etc)


Posted by igottaknow on May-05-2011 14:32:

To be fair battery life has nothing to do with Windows its because the laptop manufacturer uses a less expensive battery to keep the price down. If you buy online you are often given the choice to upgrade to a better battery with more cells like 9 or 12. Btw, hp sucks dick.


Posted by PivotTechno on May-05-2011 15:08:

HP's pretty rank as a company. My wife's 7-year old Powerbook G4 has yet to see a service depot, while my 4-year old HP Pavilion's been in the shop twice - failed mobo both times, with a futzed mic jack on the second visit as well. I've also had to replace both the battery and the power adapter (hint: don't use direct-from-HP when doing this - utter ripoff, and you can get OEM parts elsewhere for much cheaper). They train their customer service peons to act like armed personnel, fending off any inquiries that might require escalation to a supervisor. If you want to get anything done with HP, it's best to have keep the executive complaint number in a handy place - you'll need it.

Still, it does work fairly well when it is working.


Posted by VDub on May-05-2011 16:32:

Apples charging 14 grand for MacBooks now??

No wonder they're going to be a trillion dollar company....


Posted by itsamemario on May-05-2011 17:12:

Re: laptop questions

quote:
Originally posted by gmilf


What are you going to use the laptop for?
If it has anything to do with graphics I'd go with the HP. ATI Mobility > Intel HD Graphics. Hard. It also has twice the RAM and the CPU should also deliver a bit more. The price is also not to argue with.


Posted by Adam420 on May-05-2011 17:31:

Ditch the Beats and go with an HP Elitebook (the new ones are really nice). You can stick 9-cell battery in there and a solid state hard drive. That's what I'd do if I were going the PC route.

Also, for the Mac, which Core i7 is it? They're not all quad-core.


Posted by VAR on May-05-2011 17:39:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16834230003


Posted by Adam420 on May-05-2011 17:48:

quote:
Originally posted by VAR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16834230003


That's an 8-pound gaming notebook. Hardly portable and definitely overkill.


Posted by VAR on May-05-2011 17:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Adam420
That's an 8-pound gaming notebook. Hardly portable and definitely overkill.



ya . . . but . . . ok, you are right.


Posted by igottaknow on May-05-2011 18:22:

I could never see the point of spending that much on a computer/laptop. Better to buy mid level computer and replace it when its eclipsed by new technology rather than blowing your load all at once. If your not gaming a high end graphics card will just eat up your battery.


Posted by itsamemario on May-05-2011 21:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Adam420

Also, for the Mac, which Core i7 is it? They're not all quad-core.


OP said 2.7ghz dual-core so im guessing arrendale?

edit: it's also integrated intel hd graphics, so my bet is arrandale.


Posted by Adam420 on May-05-2011 22:33:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_alfi
OP said 2.7ghz dual-core so im guessing arrendale?

edit: it's also integrated intel hd graphics, so my bet is arrandale.


Oh I didn't see that.

Well I'd say go with the PC, just make sure to keep it clean.


Posted by Taipan on May-06-2011 08:59:

Hard to compare PC and Mac cause they are so different. But in terms of PC I prefer Acer to HP.


Posted by Taipan on May-06-2011 09:01:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
I could never see the point of spending that much on a computer/laptop. Better to buy mid level computer and replace it when its eclipsed by new technology rather than blowing your load all at once. If your not gaming a high end graphics card will just eat up your battery.


Yea I agree. No matter how much you spend on a laptop you can almost set your clock to it breaking in 3-4 years. I prefer to buy cheap ass computers and replace them every 2-3 years.


Posted by Ash Parajuli on May-06-2011 13:29:

get Mac dude! it's the thing to do these days... :P


Posted by gmilf on May-07-2011 02:19:

Thanks for all the input, I went with an upgraded hp. I got an amd phenomenon 2 970 processor (quad core) in some gaming laptop. I went to the Mac store, and after being in the store for about an hour I realized I wasn't trendy enough. Plus, I want to be able to have extra batteries.


Posted by aNYthing on May-07-2011 02:43:

quote:
Originally posted by gmilf
Thanks for all the input, I went with an upgraded hp. I got an amd phenomenon 2 970 processor (quad core) in some gaming laptop. I went to the Mac store, and after being in the store for about an hour I realized I wasn't trendy enough. Plus, I want to be able to have extra batteries.


pack 3 or 4, they should last you about the same time you'll get on a single battery in Mac.


Posted by igottaknow on May-07-2011 03:07:

quote:
Originally posted by gmilf
Thanks for all the input, I went with an upgraded hp. I got an amd phenomenon 2 970 processor (quad core) in some gaming laptop. I went to the Mac store, and after being in the store for about an hour I realized I wasn't trendy enough. Plus, I want to be able to have extra batteries.


Posted by ZeJayMan on May-07-2011 03:08:

Who actually uses a laptop when it's unplugged from the wall, fags, that's who.


Posted by gmilf on May-07-2011 03:09:

nice. It was 35% off with a 150 dollar instant rebate though!


Posted by tubularbills on Jul-15-2011 19:12:

hey folks, about how long to laptop batteries last? The generic answer, I know is "it depends"; but is there an average? and also, if your battery is dying, and you want to replace it, what is the best option? getting the exact same battery? or can you interchange with a different brand/size? I only ask cause I have a dell Inspiron for 18 months and it's about dead on the battery life.

I'm using firefox and win7


Posted by gmilf on Jul-15-2011 19:17:

you can upgrade the battery so it will last longer. If you have a 4 cell battery now it probably lasts about 2 hours give or take. If you upgrade to an 8 cell it will double the battery life, but it won't fit flush with the bottom of your computer. I kind of like this though, because it gets the bottom off the desk and lets air flow around easier. (The biggest battery I have seen for a dell was 12 cell and it lasted 5 hours.)


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