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Posted by DJLafleur on May-11-2011 04:54:

How many channels does one use in a production?

I always find this interesting to ask.How many channel strips doe you all usually use in a production.I use around 60-70 in mine(most I believe was close to 80).


Posted by J.L. on May-11-2011 05:02:

I used up to about 105 in my last project. However, about 40 of them were scrapped ideas and patterns

I only use one channel for automation.


Posted by -FSP- on May-11-2011 05:20:

It can range to as little as 7 to as much as 100.


Posted by DJLafleur on May-11-2011 05:28:

quote:
Originally posted by J.L.
I used up to about 105 in my last project. However, about 40 of them were scrapped ideas and patterns

I only use one channel for automation.


105???!!! geez even if 40 of them were scrapped thats still quite impressive!.


Posted by DJLafleur on May-11-2011 05:29:

quote:
Originally posted by -FSP-
It can range to as little as 7 to as much as 100.


Interesting! Btw Im a big fan of Funky Space Pirates-Something To Live For(SeeStaan Live For Life mix),used it in a promo mix not too long ago!


Posted by -FSP- on May-11-2011 05:33:

quote:
Originally posted by DJLafleur
Interesting! Btw Im a big fan of Funky Space Pirates-Something To Live For(SeeStaan Live For Life mix),used it in a promo mix not too long ago!


Thanks!

Shout outs to the Fly and the Bonzai crew for assembling great remixers for that release!


Posted by Kam on May-11-2011 06:22:

15-25max in ableton with all automation within each channel.

less is more me thinks.


Posted by derail on May-11-2011 06:34:

quote:
Originally posted by DJLafleur
105???!!! geez even if 40 of them were scrapped thats still quite impressive!.


Impressive?

I could start up a project with a thousand tracks very easily - just keep duplicating them. Then I could chop up the audio among the tracks, so the intro of a particular instrument is on one track, the verse on another, the chorus on another, the outro on another and so on.

Or I could do the same thing with automation, on the one track.

Track counts are meaningless. Achieving something with four tracks or four hundred isn't "impressive". What matters in the end is "does the song sound good?" People have different preferences in terms of workflow. Some people like combining all their effects on a single track, while others may use twenty different tracks for this.

If 60-70 is working fine for you, and feels right for you, then stick with it!


Posted by J.L. on May-11-2011 06:58:

Exactly. I use a dual screen setup and I have one screen just for pattern arranging.

I just go nuts on creating different patterns in percussion and sounds and then arrange them as necessary.


Posted by Storyteller on May-11-2011 09:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Kam
15-25max in ableton with all automation within each channel.

less is more me thinks.


This, but in Renoise instead of Ableton.


Posted by kitphillips on May-11-2011 10:03:

See if you're going to count every percussion track as a seperate track + sends and returns, and sidechain channels, then I'd easily get to about 25 tracks/project. If you were using FL and created tracks for automation, I'd probably get to 35 or more, and I use very little layering, and try to go for a generally parsimonious approach.

I don't really see what difference it makes to your production, especially considering everyone counts tracks so differently.


Posted by Dj_Kile on May-11-2011 10:40:

my last track, the one from the competition bellow (SIG) has 110+- tracks , the break is built from 20+- tracks

At some stage I exported each aspect of the track(strings,percussions,basses,hats...) as one wave file to make it easier to mix


Posted by Andy28 on May-11-2011 11:12:

For me, anything from 25 to 40 odd tracks, would probably use more if I had the cpu. Its stupid little sounds that use up the most tracks, I give everything its own track when really I could get away with having a couple of sounds on the same track if they dont play at the same time.


Posted by derail on May-11-2011 11:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Andy28
For me, anything from 25 to 40 odd tracks, would probably use more if I had the cpu. Its stupid little sounds that use up the most tracks, I give everything its own track when really I could get away with having a couple of sounds on the same track if they dont play at the same time.


See, I throw all those little sounds onto a single track.

Also, as Kit pointed out, automation tracks could be counted too. It's not exactly clear from the original post whether it's just audio tracks (though I took it that way). I guess all the MIDI tracks could be counted as well.


Posted by evo8 on May-11-2011 13:17:

bout 25 tracks max (including busses) + about 4 to 6 return tracks


Posted by Dj_Kile on May-11-2011 13:29:

I should start using the sends and returns, I never use them


Posted by kitphillips on May-11-2011 13:58:

Yeah if you use the sends and returns, you can come on TA and brag all about how many tracks your using


Posted by Richard Butler on May-11-2011 14:30:

Thing is I will take 3 tracks of synth lead, with 5 fx sends and convert it to a 1 track audio 'lead' file, so 8 becomes 1.

I can tell you it now takes me about 2 or 3 months working every night and more at weekends to make 1 track. Anything I make quickly for me just doesn't stand out so I can't get excitiied by it especially given the fact thousands of tracks are released each week, so I guess in my own case it's not number of lanes, but number of hours.


Posted by Dj_Kile on May-11-2011 14:30:

yeah, but on a serious note, this will (I think) free up some CPU, instead of having the same filter+compressor+eq treatment on every track you can send those track to one send channel and save some processing power


Posted by rulzz on May-11-2011 15:05:

12-25. Less is more indeed. Would love to cut down further and do summing with outboard mixer down to 8 channels.


Posted by cryophonik on May-11-2011 15:13:

My last project had a single MIDI note per track and I chopped the vocals up into about 378 pieces, each on their own track. I ended up with 16,743 tracks. Oh, and 12 busses. I'm awesome and I win.

Can we delete this newb thread now?


Posted by kitphillips on May-11-2011 16:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Kile
yeah, but on a serious note, this will (I think) free up some CPU, instead of having the same filter+compressor+eq treatment on every track you can send those track to one send channel and save some processing power


Sends don't really help with filtering and compression or EQ. They really only work for delay and reverb and things like that, where you want a 100% wet signal mixed with the dry one.

Also, compression, EQ, filtering don't use that much CPU power.


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-11-2011 16:49:

14



edit: credit to anyone who can guess why


Posted by DJLafleur on May-11-2011 20:39:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
My last project had a single MIDI note per track and I chopped the vocals up into about 378 pieces, each on their own track. I ended up with 16,743 tracks. Oh, and 12 busses. I'm awesome and I win.

Can we delete this newb thread now?


How is this a newb thread? Im just curious,if you don't have anything nice to say then don't post.

Interesting to see that some only use 14,I would love to try and get up to 100 channel strips,just seems bad ass :P


Posted by cryophonik on May-11-2011 20:49:

quote:
Originally posted by DJLafleur
How is this a newb thread?


How about you explain why it's not a newb thread and how the number of tracks a person uses is important, let alone "badass"?

quote:
Originally posted by DJLafleur
I would love to try and get up to 100 channel strips,just seems bad ass :P


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