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Posted by cristianokeller on May-13-2011 14:24:

Headphone Decision: AKG K240 MKII or AKG K702

Hello guys, my old headphone died yesterday and I need to buy one today on eBay.

Help to decide. The K702 costs 3 times more... But I don't care about this! "I'm buying my headphone for the next 10 years"

Wich of these two AKG models translate the mixing better?

I don't have a place to test them in my city...


ps.: Talk about Sennheiser is prohibited here since I've had bad experiences with replacing the cushions and cables a lot of times...


Posted by Beatflux on May-13-2011 15:14:

HD650.


Posted by 5oundbite on May-13-2011 15:29:

Im using the AKG K240 Studio. They sound clean and transparent and they are comfy, you can wear them for hours and still forget were you have left them. The Bass will crackle at high volumes tho. But on the other hand never mix down to loud. You'll have a hard time finding any better in that price range.


Posted by J.L. on May-13-2011 19:18:

Beats by Tiesto


Posted by UrbanNinja on May-13-2011 19:37:

skullcandy


Posted by skyhunter on May-13-2011 20:11:

quote:
Originally posted by J.L.
Beats by Tiesto


oh my...


Posted by J.L. on May-14-2011 02:39:

On a more serious note, I use headphones to simulate what different audiences would listen to a track. I have a pair of HD 280 for the higher end consumer, and a pair of TMA-1 headphones which are designed for DJing.

If the mix translates on my monitors well, and both my headphones, I take it to my laptop, my ipod headphones and in each stage I A/B with professional sounding mixes and give it a go.

My mixing is not flawless, but I certainly get a better mix from listening on different sources than a single source.

Any headphones will always give a certain result of a mix. Some people like to get a specific headphone to mix with because it translates into a mix that compensates for a headphone's deficiencies. Now even if you get a theoretically perfectly flat pair of cans, it will probably not translate into great mixes.

My advice, go to the local headphone store with some of the best professionally mixed music that you enjoy, and try it on different headphones where you feel gives you the most accurate feel for what the music really is, take it home, and mix your tracks to sound like what you hear.


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-14-2011 03:16:

quote:
Originally posted by UrbanNinja
skullcandy


Posted by cristianokeller on May-14-2011 16:40:

Please guys, I need serious suggestions.

The k702 justify it's price over the k240?

Thank you

ps.: again, for the skullcandy guy, I feel sorry for him. Don't speak what you don't know man...


Posted by TranceElevation on May-14-2011 22:49:

quote:
Originally posted by cristianokeller
Please guys, I need serious suggestions.

The k702 justify it's price over the k240?

Thank you

ps.: again, for the skullcandy guy, I feel sorry for him. Don't speak what you don't know man...


Why don't you try something alternative instead?

Since you got money to spend try these: http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/info/...000+USB+Headset

Only 60$.


Posted by thecYrus on May-15-2011 01:19:

Akg 701, technically the same like the 702 but cheaper.


Posted by sot on May-20-2011 17:10:

i've got the k702 and as i do like them alot, i think the soundstage in them is a bit exaggerated and tricky to get a track done properly in them. also the burn-in time with them is insane, i hated them when i first got them (no bass, weak high's) but after leaving itunes on 24/7 with them blasting for a good 2 weeks, the drivers finally opened up and now they sound great. also the bass response since they are open, is a bit lacking, so be sure you do have trusty monitors to check your mixes.

i was also told the beyerdynamic dt880 or the sennheiser hd650 might be better suited for edm. i haven't tried them though.


Posted by cryophonik on May-20-2011 17:26:

quote:
Originally posted by sot
i was also told the beyerdynamic dt880 or the sennheiser hd650 might be better suited for edm. i haven't tried them though.


I love my DT880s. When I bought them, it was a tough choice between them and the HD650s, but the BeyerDynamics were much more comfortable to me. I do hear people say that certain headphones are better for certain genres, but I don't believe that - the most important thing is that they are as accurate as possible.


Posted by eyepad on Apr-01-2013 03:10:

Hey guys, I'm thinking about upgrading my old K240 Studios to the 701 or 702. Seems like some of you guys are pretty knowledgeable about these cans, so I'm wondering if you think the upgrade is worth the price. Also, do any of you guys run them straight out of your laptop headphone jacks? I work on the road a lot and I don't usually bring along a soundcard or headphone amp with me, so I need something that will work fine with my Macbook's headphone out.


Posted by cryophonik on Apr-01-2013 18:26:

I don't have the 701s/702s, but I have the 240s and they've always worked fine with my laptops (Dell, HP, MBA) without a soundcard or headphone amp. I believe that they're only 55 ohms, so most amps can push them pretty easily. My DT880s OTOH are 600 ohms and my laptops' headphone amps can barely push them. It looks like the 702s have an impedance of 62 ohms, so you should be OK (from a loudness perspective) without a dedicated amp/soundcard.

As far as upgrading from the 240s to the 701s/702s, somebody else will have to answer that. The 70Xs are pretty popular, so I'm sure quite a few people here have them.


Posted by eyepad on Apr-01-2013 19:01:

Thanks for the info Cryo! Anybody here using the 701s or 702s?


Posted by Zak McKracken on Apr-01-2013 19:55:

teh K240 isnt really flat! your mixes will be weird using them. they are decent for a second reference only, but not during creative process or mixing. im curious about the 701/2 myself as i need better headphones and a dedicated headphone amp/soundcard.


Posted by eyepad on Apr-01-2013 21:36:

quote:
Originally posted by clay
teh K240 isnt really flat!


That's one of the reasons why I want to upgrade them. I have the studio version and not the mkII, and not even sure what the difference is lol.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Apr-02-2013 17:10:

yeah mine too says studio. never thought about it lol. crap


Posted by cryophonik on Apr-02-2013 17:18:

I'm not sure exactly what the difference between the Studio and mkII is either, but I think I recall reading that the cheaper one (Studio, the ones I have) was made in China and the more expensive one (mkII) was made in Austria?


Posted by Zak McKracken on Apr-02-2013 17:28:

studio clearly states build in austria whatever that means. maybe theyre drawed there?


Posted by cryophonik on Apr-02-2013 17:35:

quote:
Originally posted by clay
studio clearly states build in austria whatever that means. maybe theyre drawed there?


That's interesting - maybe yours are older. I'm at work right now, so I can't verify it, but I'm almost positive that the Studios I bought last year were made in China. It seems that maybe AKG moved production of some of its headphones to China a few years ago:

http://www.akg.com/forum/index.php?topic=2791.0


Posted by jayxthekoolest on Apr-04-2013 20:19:

quote:
Originally posted by sot
i've got the k702 and as i do like them alot, i think the soundstage in them is a bit exaggerated and tricky to get a track done properly in them. also the burn-in time with them is insane, i hated them when i first got them (no bass, weak high's) but after leaving itunes on 24/7 with them blasting for a good 2 weeks, the drivers finally opened up and now they sound great. also the bass response since they are open, is a bit lacking, so be sure you do have trusty monitors to check your mixes.

i was also told the beyerdynamic dt880 or the sennheiser hd650 might be better suited for edm. i haven't tried them though.


I don't completely disagree with you, but...

First of all, the soundstage is just as exaggerated as any other headphone. It's not like it reproduces sounds in the incorrect place. But perhaps you're referring to the fact that the headphones sound more open than other headphones? This is very different than an "exaggerated" stereo image. I personally have zero issues placing things within the stereo field. I almost feel as if the headphones give you more control than say a set of studio monitors.

Second of all, stop whining about the break in period. Just plug them into your computer, blast music, leave the house and in less than a week they'll be broken in. It's certainly less of a big deal than some studio monitors I've ever had to deal with.

Finally, you completely miss the point of buying the headphones. The entire spectrum is pretty flat, with a bass response that is perhaps 10% too lean. So while I do agree that the bass response is lacking, it should be noted that it's at the cost of making a fairly accurate picture of the entire spectrum. It does a night and day better job of this than say a Sony MDR 7506 or Beats by Dre.


OP:

Overall, I'd highly recommend the AKG K702. They've got a flat frequency response, a great transient response (so you can hear compression and kicks clearly) and they've got great detail (more than you need for a club, but more is better in my opinion).

I have no experience with the other headphones you mentioned.


Posted by Juan Paulino on Apr-05-2013 20:12:

Try these, best headphones I ever used.

Sony MDVR-7520


Posted by djyouth on Apr-06-2013 00:28:

My experience is the K240 MKII is lacking in the low end. Good for a singer when recording, but not for mixing IMO. They're simply too weak.

As for the Tiesto AKG's � don't even think about it. Seriously...


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