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Posted by sicc on Jun-06-2011 04:33:

Mix down - Would love some feedback.

I'm still learning how to produce an over all decent track, all inclusive of what makes a decent track (aren't we all), and I cant seem to decide if im satisfied with the mixdown. My productions have gotten a lot better but I would love some feedback on my most recent.

http://soundcloud.com/sicc/silver

Any feedback is appreciated. Not mastered so turn up your volume! Thanks.

P.S I just realized the white noise leading into the drop is much to quite.


Posted by sako487 on Jun-06-2011 05:12:

can you make this downloadable? SC has bad quality


Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Jun-06-2011 14:46:

quote:
Originally posted by sako487
can you make this downloadable? SC has bad quality


+1.


Posted by evo8 on Jun-06-2011 15:54:

Re: Mix down - Would love some feedback.

quote:
Originally posted by sicc
I'm still learning how to produce an over all decent track, all inclusive of what makes a decent track (aren't we all), and I cant seem to decide if im satisfied with the mixdown. My productions have gotten a lot better but I would love some feedback on my most recent.

http://soundcloud.com/sicc/silver

Any feedback is appreciated. Not mastered so turn up your volume! Thanks.

P.S I just realized the white noise leading into the drop is much to quite.


For me: the kick isnt prominent enough, its sort of buried in there, should stand out a bit more
the bass is very heavy, id say its robbing most of your headroom - i would trade some of that sub for some more sub on the kick if that makes sense...but maybe thats the approach you are going for

also your mix level is way way quiet, should never really be that low even before "mastering" - whats your master channel peaking at?


Posted by sicc on Jun-06-2011 17:35:

Re: Re: Mix down - Would love some feedback.

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
For me: the kick isnt prominent enough, its sort of buried in there, should stand out a bit more
the bass is very heavy, id say its robbing most of your headroom - i would trade some of that sub for some more sub on the kick if that makes sense...but maybe thats the approach you are going for

also your mix level is way way quiet, should never really be that low even before "mastering" - whats your master channel peaking at?


Sitting right below 0 when all the tracks are playing. The kick was to loud last time and I seemed to mix it to far down this time around, thanks for pointing it out. The kick actually covers a very wide range of frequencies, from low/sub bass to low mid with a nice treble click, but my bass line does drown out some of that in the kick.


Posted by sicc on Jun-06-2011 17:39:

quote:
Originally posted by sako487
can you make this downloadable? SC has bad quality


It should now be downloadable. Thanks man


Posted by skyhunter on Jun-07-2011 01:43:

Re: Re: Re: Mix down - Would love some feedback.

quote:
Originally posted by sicc
Sitting right below 0 when all the tracks are playing.


Really? I'm finding that hard to believe.


Posted by sicc on Jun-07-2011 05:03:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Mix down - Would love some feedback.

quote:
Originally posted by skyhunter
Really? I'm finding that hard to believe.


While all the sounds are playing, it sits right under 0db. Here is an updated version, I brought up a few sounds. Do you guys think this sounds any better? The kick is more present through out the track. Also, its generally mixed a bit louder.

http://soundcloud.com/sicc/air


Posted by kitphillips on Jun-07-2011 11:25:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Mix down - Would love some feedback.

quote:
Originally posted by skyhunter
Really? I'm finding that hard to believe.


Because perceived volume has little to do with the actual peak level. Its all about EQ and RMS.


Posted by evo8 on Jun-07-2011 14:08:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mix down - Would love some feedback.

quote:
Originally posted by sicc
While all the sounds are playing, it sits right under 0db. Here is an updated version, I brought up a few sounds. Do you guys think this sounds any better? The kick is more present through out the track. Also, its generally mixed a bit louder.

http://soundcloud.com/sicc/air


if its just sitting under 0db then imo there is something wrong in the mix...and id say its too much sub and not enough of the kick

Kick still needs to come up and im not sure even then if its gonna sound right, not mad on that particular kick
Also the snare gets drowned out a bit when the noise comes in - I can barely hear it...i think it could do with a volume boost as well

Basically the mix between the bass, pad sound and that twinkly lead is sitting pretty good - its the rest you have to work on

all imo of course!


Posted by sicc on Jun-07-2011 17:43:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mix down - Would love some feedback.

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
if its just sitting under 0db then imo there is something wrong in the mix...and id say its too much sub and not enough of the kick

Kick still needs to come up and im not sure even then if its gonna sound right, not mad on that particular kick
Also the snare gets drowned out a bit when the noise comes in - I can barely hear it...i think it could do with a volume boost as well

Basically the mix between the bass, pad sound and that twinkly lead is sitting pretty good - its the rest you have to work on

all imo of course!


Thanks very much good sir. there is quite a lot of sub bass muddying up the bass and kick together. Also, evo8, I took your suggestion (i think it was yours) and I layered another synth to the bassline, it takes up a lot more of the low - mid range now, making it more apparent, but i still need to cut some of that sub off the other bass synth. It seemed to work a lot well, i got a sound out of it i really like, so thanks!


Posted by Atlantis-AR on Jun-07-2011 18:55:

First of, I recommend you use FLAC to compress your WAV file before uploading it to SoundCloud. Unlike MP3, you won't lose any quality and people on limited bandwidth can still download your track. That said, I still get cut off during off-peak hours (not your fault, just New Zealand ISPs), so I'll download it in a couple of hours and give my feedback. Hope you haven't clipped or compressed your master...


Posted by sicc on Jun-07-2011 20:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Atlantis-AR
First of, I recommend you use FLAC to compress your WAV file before uploading it to SoundCloud. Unlike MP3, you won't lose any quality and people on limited bandwidth can still download your track. That said, I still get cut off during off-peak hours (not your fault, just New Zealand ISPs), so I'll download it in a couple of hours and give my feedback. Hope you haven't clipped or compressed your master...


Thanks man I look forward to it, I will probably have a newer version up soon, I did some EQ'ing to cut out some mud.


Posted by Atlantis-AR on Jun-07-2011 21:38:

quote:
Originally posted by sicc
Thanks man I look forward to it, I will probably have a newer version up soon, I did some EQ'ing to cut out some mud.

Your 'mixdown' is definitely far too muddy and bassy. I don't know what but you must be monitoring on tiny laptop speakers or are either very new to production to get a sound like this...

First, you need to remove the limiter from your master channel. Saying that your mix peaks at -1 dB when a limiter is applying 6 dB of gain reduction isn't very true. The limiter seems to have an output ceiling of about -16 dB, but remove it entirely and render the mix again. You shouldn't get any clipping on the output and a peak level of about -6 dB.

Then, fix the mud by turning all treble instruments up and cutting away the upper bass range from the bassline, as well as rolling off the sub (not a general rule, but in your case). Try to balance it better around the kick as well as all the other instruments so the mix sounds natural (don't mix too loud!). If the master peaks higher than -6 dB, just lower the master fader and render again. This will save you having to re-balance all the channels again.

I'm happy downloading an update if you can provide a 320 kbps MP3 link as a download option; a WAV really isn't needed this early in production.



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