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Posted by DeepWit on Jun-09-2011 12:54:

Smile A Guide for Artists and Labels to Combat Piracy

This was a blog I wrote in response to our Artists seeking help on removing Illegal download sites, thought it really needed to be shared about the electronic music community.

https://deepwitrecordings.wordpress...he-music-scene/


Posted by rdevito on Jun-09-2011 13:27:

Re: A Guide for Artists and Labels to Combat Piracy

quote:
Originally posted by DeepWit
This was a blog I wrote in response to our Artists seeking help on removing Illegal download sites, thought it really needed to be shared about the electronic music community.

https://deepwitrecordings.wordpress...he-music-scene/


Dude, there is so many websites of illegal downloads that you'll need an entire team to stop piracy. It's basically impossible...


Posted by DeepWit on Jun-09-2011 13:30:

It maybe impossible to stop it entirely but we can surely make a dent in it, and if you are producing and releasing your own music, you should be able and willing to take a hand in keeping your music off those sites. Maybe I am an optimist but I know it makes a difference for our label and artists we work with


Posted by DeepWit on Jun-09-2011 14:33:

Re: Re: Re: A Guide for Artists and Labels to Combat Piracy

quote:
Originally posted by Euforix
Not just basically. It is impossible.

"When you shut down one door, 10 more open up."


I find it interesting that people are just willing to give it up. I can honestly say, yes it is a battle, but we have had great success keeping piracy down to almost none existent with our label. If each artist did it for themselves, plus the labels as well, it would be much harder for the pirates to get away with it, especially on the huge level they are now. I don't see the point of just throwing your hands up and saying... Oh well... I can't change it all by myself so there is nothing to be done. That is the farthest thing from the truth, if we all did our part, each artist sent out DMCA notices, each label as well, it would take a HUGE chunk out of what is out there illegally.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Jun-09-2011 14:46:

WHY DONT U JUST USE A MAC I HEARD THERES NO VIRUSES AND NO PIRACY IF U USE A MAC


Posted by mathieu on Jun-09-2011 15:33:

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
WHY DONT U JUST USE A MAC I HEARD THERES NO VIRUSES AND NO PIRACY IF U USE A MAC




Seriously tho, this could be good for smaller guys like me. I only get like 2 or 3, maximum 5 pirate links to my tunes per release.

Another question. Do you think that because there are no free download links, people will buy the music?


Posted by rdevito on Jun-09-2011 16:28:

Re: Re: Re: Re: A Guide for Artists and Labels to Combat Piracy

quote:
Originally posted by DeepWit
I can honestly say, yes it is a battle, but we have had great success keeping piracy down to almost none existent with our label.


That's because your music is very underground or very unknown.

Now think about the big names, thousands and thousands (if not millions) of people searching their tracks and trying to share with each other.

There is absolutely NO WAY you keep control of this.


Posted by basilisk on Jun-09-2011 16:41:

This is hopelessly naive.


Posted by DeepWit on Jun-10-2011 11:27:

quote:
Originally posted by basilisk
This is hopelessly naive.


I love how you say that, then your tag line is download free music from this site.

Go ahead pirates, assume it is hopelessly naive to think the musicians and the labels can have some sway in this matter. I do believe the tide is turning and with people opening their eyes and gaining knowledge nothing is either hopeless or impossible. So watch out, as more and more artists and labels start taking a stand and you are responding to thousands of DMCA notices a day. A little tricky to run an illegal site when every time you turn around it is getting shut down. I believe my love of music, and the artists love of music will far outlast the greedy small minded people who put up other peoples music to make a profit on it


Posted by Sykonee on Jun-10-2011 12:12:

quote:
Originally posted by DeepWit
I love how you say that, then your tag line is download free music from this site.

The free music his website offers is provided with the artists' blessing.


Posted by Pjotr G on Jun-10-2011 12:42:

meh, I don't care about people pirating my music, more people enjoying the music is fine to me. If a label can be bothered to try and fight it, they can go right ahead. It's not like I make a lot of money off music anyway.


Posted by Simonn on Jun-10-2011 13:50:

You really provide good guideline for the artists.
By following your instructions a artist can be successful in his life.


Posted by Chimney on Jun-10-2011 21:03:

Pirated tracks are only good as samples since they're .mp3. A real fan will always buy the music, regardless if it's out there or not.

There's alot of music. Let's be honest, who's gonna pay 1� for a track they half like when they can just do a quick google search?


Posted by enydo on Jun-10-2011 21:51:

Yeah, good luck.


Posted by basilisk on Jun-10-2011 22:56:

quote:
Originally posted by DeepWit
I love how you say that, then your tag line is download free music from this site.


My site is totally legal. I represent artists and label owners who prefer to freely share their creative work. The benefits of this are many, starting with vastly increased exposure and feedback. The trade off is lost sales... but recorded music doesn't sell very well anyhow--and not only because P2P sharing is normative behaviour! The music industry is heavily saturated given the democratization of the tools of production. Anyhow, most full-time artists earn the majority of their income from gigs. If that's the case, why fight a lost cause? (And fighting piracy is indeed a lost cause; see below.) For many artists, the exposure gained from free music outweighs lost sales by a huge margin. It feels good to share, you make new fans, there are no guilt trips involved, and it can lead to paying gigs and more business (if the artists is into that; many don't care and still produce fantastic music for free). No, free music as a strategy is not going to work for everyone, but this idea that all musicians must sell recordings to make a living is merely industry propaganda.

quote:
Originally posted by DeepWit
Go ahead pirates, assume it is hopelessly naive to think the musicians and the labels can have some sway in this matter. I do believe the tide is turning and with people opening their eyes and gaining knowledge nothing is either hopeless or impossible. So watch out, as more and more artists and labels start taking a stand and you are responding to thousands of DMCA notices a day. A little tricky to run an illegal site when every time you turn around it is getting shut down. I believe my love of music, and the artists love of music will far outlast the greedy small minded people who put up other peoples music to make a profit on it


You believe the tide is turning? Naive and deluded, I see. What good are DMCA notices to a site hosted outside of the US? Piracy truly is the many-headed hydra: nail one site and ten more will spring up in its place. Look at what happened with OiNK! (Assuming here you have done some research... but I have my doubts.) What it boils down to is this: the Internet is an extremely powerful copying machine. The network treats censorship of any kind as damage and reroutes around it. In truth, the only thing you really need to worry about is not being pirated, for that would indicate that there is essentially no interest in what you are doing.

However... if you are serious about piracy there are a few things you might be able to do. DMCA notices and other bullshit will get you nowhere (as you will find out sooner or later). No, look up an article by Kevin Kelly called "Better Than Free" and try to provide something like that for your fans. And remember: people who are pirating your music are potential fans! Don't treat them like criminals.

By the way, do you happen to offer your entire catalogue in CD quality for sale online at a reasonable price (i.e. less than the cost of equivalent physical media)? Or do you fleece your customers with lame fees for "exclusive" content on Beatport? And you wonder why people pirate music...


Posted by Viber on Jun-10-2011 23:34:

^ i like this guy



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