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Posted by ivofivo on Aug-06-2011 03:26:

FAO: TA's with knowledge about the American law.

I have been working at one of the restaurants near my house as a side-summer job for the past year or so. My relationship with my boss has been terrible as of late. Details are not important.


I have recently decided to quit and applied at a new place down the road. Luckily, I got the job. However, a week into my new "career", I find out that my old boss called the new place where I work and stated that I am an awful and unmotivated worker, and that I shouldn't be allowed to work there.


What should I do? Is it unlawful?


Posted by nchs09 on Aug-06-2011 03:27:

ahhhh ..... we care about the details


Posted by Sushipunk on Aug-06-2011 03:29:

Details, or GTFO.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Aug-06-2011 03:29:

DETAILS.. WE NEED THEM


Posted by jonSun on Aug-06-2011 03:31:

If your new boss has a clue he/she would not take it serious & see for him/her self.


Posted by nchs09 on Aug-06-2011 03:33:

Josun and nrg2 are both from Israel. Fun fact.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Aug-06-2011 03:33:

Did you have any written performance reviews, ones that you signed off on? Sounds like this guy is an idiot who is opening himself up to a slander case.

That being said, you are a fucking moron, so your former boss is probably right.


Posted by Desiderata on Aug-06-2011 03:34:

He goosed the Bosses daughter.


Posted by The17sss on Aug-06-2011 03:37:

Too much gray area. I would be inclined to say it's not illegal for your boss to be an asshole, and if he genuinely felt that way he has every right to do what he did. I'm not legal expert, but I would find this to be a pretty hard case to win, let alone find a lawyer who would even take it. Just tell your new boss the old one had a personal problem with you, and for him to give you the chance to prove your worth.


Posted by OrangestO on Aug-06-2011 03:38:

Did you use him as a reference?

I've heard that you could take someone to court for slander, yet why the fuck would you use them for a reference in the first place if you knew they might say something negative? Idk.

Go get a new job, or go shoot your old boss. If he's a restaurant manger, chances are he's a shitbag that doesn't deserve life anyways.


Posted by ivofivo on Aug-06-2011 03:43:

Well,...


It all began when I decided to drink at the bar for free, while working, while he wasn't at work. Sneaky little ****** had a camera.

Since it was both a restaurant and the bar, I used the jukebox for my personal taste in music and wanted to cheer up the customers. He never fell in love with trance.

I repeatedly abused my rights as an assistant chef and would always steal an extra pickle or two to bring home.


Now what, ******s.


Posted by Sushipunk on Aug-06-2011 03:44:



I would have fired your ass.


Posted by nchs09 on Aug-06-2011 03:46:

quote:
Originally posted by ivofivo
Well,...


It all began when I decided to drink at the bar for free, while working, while he wasn't at work. Sneaky little ****** had a camera.

Since it was both a restaurant and the bar, I used the jukebox for my personal taste in music and wanted to cheer up the customers. He never fell in love with trance.

I repeatedly abused my rights as an assistant chef and would always steal an extra pickle or two to bring home.


Now what, ******s.
Sneaky fucking Russian.


Posted by Lira on Aug-06-2011 03:47:

I can't say what I really mean through language, so I'm going to post this video instead:



These are my thoughts about your current situation.


Posted by ivofivo on Aug-06-2011 03:47:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
Too much gray area. I would be inclined to say it's not illegal for your boss to be an asshole, and if he genuinely felt that way he has every right to do what he did. I'm not legal expert, but I would find this to be a pretty hard case to win, let alone find a lawyer who would even take it. Just tell your new boss the old one had a personal problem with you, and for him to give you the chance to prove your worth.


Well, a personal problem is what makes this an obvious "I want to fuck you over, although it has nothing to do with your work tendencies". I did not use him as a reference. My work at his place was ethical and to his standards. Nothing less.


Posted by VAR on Aug-06-2011 03:47:

ivofivo

1. don't be a fuckup and give someone ammo to shoot at you;
drunk at work on their booze? just sounds terrible

2. prove to your new boss that what the old one said is untrue-

in actions, not words


Posted by OrangestO on Aug-06-2011 03:49:

quote:
Originally posted by ivofivo
Well,...


It all began when I decided to drink at the bar for free, while working, while he wasn't at work.


I was fired for this. Bartender I worked with while I was a busser gave me a few free beers one day (while I was underage), and bossman found out and told me that he had to let me go.

I told him to fuck off, but I knew why he had to do it at the same time (permits and other bullshit that comes with owning a bar).

I'd go get shitfaced and act a fool now that you don't work there. What's the worst they can do, call the police? Fuck it.


Posted by ivofivo on Aug-06-2011 03:50:

Thanks for the advice, Dr. Ben Sobel.


Posted by jonSun on Aug-06-2011 03:51:

quote:
Originally posted by ivofivo


I repeatedly abused my rights as an assistant chef and would always steal an extra pickle or two to bring home.



you lie. it was a cucumber


Posted by ivofivo on Aug-06-2011 03:52:

Nah son, shits too big.


Posted by ivofivo on Aug-06-2011 03:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I can't say what I really mean through language, so I'm going to post this video instead:



These are my thoughts about your current situation.




Posted by Joss Weatherby on Aug-06-2011 03:56:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
Too much gray area. I would be inclined to say it's not illegal for your boss to be an asshole, and if he genuinely felt that way he has every right to do what he did. I'm not legal expert, but I would find this to be a pretty hard case to win, let alone find a lawyer who would even take it. Just tell your new boss the old one had a personal problem with you, and for him to give you the chance to prove your worth.


If you are fired and they do not have any sort of written performance reviews that you have signed off on then in most cases its a pretty clear cut. Since you were let go under unfavorable circumstances then usually it is assumed that the employer will have bad things to say about you, and if they have no written record then the employee can claim that they are just making shit up.

When I was fired they offered to let me quit and they'd cite creative differences if any other employer called them in reference to me, or I could be fired and they'd basically make me sound horrible. I told them to basically go fuck themselves because every performance review I had was undocumented except for the raise that I got after it (as in my paychecks).

So be a smart employer. If you discipline an employee make sure you have a written record of it that they sign off on or you basically have no recourse against them if you want to give your opinion on how they perform to another employer.


Posted by ivofivo on Aug-06-2011 03:57:

You have officially derailed my thread, asshole.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Aug-06-2011 04:00:

kill yourself immediatley. God may give you redemption.


Posted by Lira on Aug-06-2011 04:01:

quote:
Originally posted by ivofivo
You have officially derailed my thread, asshole.

I'll de-derail it, don't worry.

There's nothing you can do about it. But then, there's nothing HE can do about it either (other than harass your current employer).


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