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Posted by ejoffe on Aug-22-2011 16:10:

EDM in 2011

Anyone else think this has been a massive year (if not the most positive progressive years ever) for EDM in the states?

Just look at all the festivals popping up out of nowhere. Events are becoming bigger and big money sponsor driven. EDM is flourishing in US pop music production. I can go on...

F^ck even shithole El Paso, Texas has a festival http://suncitymusicfestival.com/info.html

Awesome.


Posted by Burak14 on Aug-22-2011 17:18:

did i miss the part where you were suppose to say "and therefore edm/music qualityy is going down the shit hole."


Posted by ejoffe on Aug-22-2011 17:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Burak14
did i miss the part where you were suppose to say "and therefore edm/music qualityy is going down the shit hole."


No you did not miss that. Anyway I would have to disagree. Although I'm probably not as in tune with all the finely tuned nuances as you are


Posted by Excess on Aug-26-2011 19:59:

i have to agree with that and even in terms of musical quality this year has been on point for dance music. though im sure there will be some haters in here saying everybody sucks and nobody makes good music anymore


Posted by yankeeBaby on Aug-26-2011 20:05:

I think this year had been huge for bringing EDM to America. I think there is a difference in "taste" and "being aware" of the growth...

Not everyone is going to like the new music being put out, but isnt it pretty much the same in every generation? My parents loathed hip hop and electronica, my grandparents tolled their eyes at my parents listening to hippy/70's/classic rock n roll, etc....I, for one, roll my eyes at dubstep and *some* recent house/trance, but that doesnt mean I knock it. To each his own, and if it brings more music to more people, then whateva.


Posted by Dany Veltri on Aug-26-2011 20:22:

Re: EDM in 2011

quote:
Originally posted by ejoffe
F^ck even shithole El Paso, Texas has a festival http://suncitymusicfestival.com/info.html



Wow, a 2 Day VIP Pass is only $112.00 and it's pretty good lineup, minus Chuckle and Afrojackoff.


Posted by ravracer16 on Aug-26-2011 20:26:

Well I know its has been big year when friends that wouldn't even go out with me to clubs to hear these artists if I promised Megan Fox would give them a lap dance are now posting tracks by Avicii, SHM, Dirty South on their Facebook walls. Though these are the more know acts its still surprising.

I only roll my eyes when they start commenting how dope this track is, how cool they are for finding it. I just write back that track was out 2 years ago.


Posted by Dany Veltri on Aug-26-2011 20:29:

quote:
Originally posted by ravracer16
tracks by Avicii, SHM, Dirty South on their Facebook walls.


And there's the negative to 2011. Axwell isn't terrible though.


Posted by ravracer16 on Aug-27-2011 01:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Dany Veltri
And there's the negative to 2011. Axwell isn't terrible though.



haha yup!! Though i do like Axwell, his newer tracks have been SHModified. But then again i'm may be coming off as a snub if they don't post Zabiela, Umek, Cox, Loco Dice on their walls.


Posted by AY STAR on Aug-27-2011 01:21:

2011 imo has def been a very good but differnt year
there seem's to be a really strong commercial scene with top dj's pretty much changeing styles to cater to that certain crowd which is huge

but also there has been alot of good underground parties and talent

so for me personally ive moved on from some dj's who i used to really like (mostly trance guys) and just started to check out a few lesser known trance dj's/local dj's and parties as well as more techno,house and prog guys
i still love trance and i def have to dig deeper these days to find some really good songs...just not the commercial bs being put out today
i dunno how people still label it as trance music


Posted by SebG on Aug-27-2011 01:35:

quote:
Originally posted by AY STAR
2011 imo has def been a very good but differnt year
there seem's to be a really strong commercial scene with top dj's pretty much changeing styles to cater to that certain crowd which is huge

but also there has been alot of good underground parties and talent

so for me personally ive moved on from some dj's who i used to really like (mostly trance guys) and just started to check out a few lesser known trance dj's/local dj's and parties as well as more techno,house and prog guys
i still love trance and i def have to dig deeper these days to find some really good songs...just not the commercial bs being put out today
i dunno how people still label it as trance music



Same for me


Posted by yankeeBaby on Aug-27-2011 01:40:

^^Totally agree Andrew.


In order to create a huge scene, you have to create a huge following (in EDM in general). But people often forget that many of those who may be new to EDM, will latch onto more commercial stuff first before appreciating and feeling out the "good stuff."

It happens to the best of us. How many people do you know, that currently listen to the more "elite" stuff, whom started off with Tiesto or DJ Sammy or Armin circa 2001 or some Night-At-the-Roxbury type stuff (depending on how old you are). Especially those who didnt have access to a lot else otherwise (read: non-city kids)

Its all about progression. Some people may not like that the scene is getting bigger and more commercial, but what are you gonna do about it? You can bitch and moan.... or move on to/find things that make you happy. I've grown through my old bitterness of the music changing (because, in reality, I cant change shit) and reached out to music, venues, activities that better suited my current needs.


Posted by AY STAR on Aug-27-2011 01:45:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby

In order to create a huge scene, you have to create a huge following (in EDM in general). But people often forget that many of those who may be new to EDM, will latch onto more commercial stuff first before appreciating and feeling out the "good stuff."



"A lot of people don't like the success of someone like David Guetta...But it's a blessing in disguise. He can get the attention of people who don't know anything about dance music. From there maybe they'll move on to something more underground. So thank you David. Your music sucks, but it helps."

Marco Carola -


Posted by yankeeBaby on Aug-27-2011 01:52:

quote:
Originally posted by AY STAR
"A lot of people don't like the success of someone like David Guetta...But it's a blessing in disguise. He can get the attention of people who don't know anything about dance music. From there maybe they'll move on to something more underground. So thank you David. Your music sucks, but it helps."

Marco Carola -



Exactly!


Posted by Neonbeats on Aug-27-2011 03:12:

Not only did hip hop move to EDM, but so did the emo/screamo scene. Remember the big emo/screamo scene circa 2005? Yea well those emo tards grew up and now want cooler emo/screamo music - enter Skrillex.


Posted by xpand3r on Aug-27-2011 14:28:


Thank you David Guetta for a quality hip hop/pop release.

EDM is definitely gaining popularity in USA but this is not the type of music I want to hear at clubs/festivals. I hope you guys enjoy Guetta at EZoo.

I have been listening to mainly underground techno/house releases myself and there have been some great releases this year. There's always good music out there but you just gotta dig for it. I have moved on from trance myself pretty much stopped listening to compilation albums (which i used to do before then it all to started to sound the same)


Posted by Swamper on Aug-28-2011 00:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Neonbeats
Not only did hip hop move to EDM, but so did the emo/screamo scene. Remember the big emo/screamo scene circa 2005? Yea well those emo tards grew up and now want cooler emo/screamo music - enter Skrillex.


^ this.


Posted by Armitage350 on Aug-30-2011 01:44:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby

In order to create a huge scene, you have to create a huge following (in EDM in general). But people often forget that many of those who may be new to EDM, will latch onto more commercial stuff first before appreciating and feeling out the "good stuff."

It happens to the best of us. How many people do you know, that currently listen to the more "elite" stuff, whom started off with Tiesto or DJ Sammy or Armin circa 2001 or some Night-At-the-Roxbury type stuff (depending on how old you are). Especially those who didnt have access to a lot else otherwise (read: non-city kids)

Its all about progression. Some people may not like that the scene is getting bigger and more commercial, but what are you gonna do about it? You can bitch and moan.... or move on to/find things that make you happy. I've grown through my old bitterness of the music changing (because, in reality, I cant change shit) and reached out to music, venues, activities that better suited my current needs.


This.

I don't particularly like it (the growth and change), but the scene certainly isn't going to hold back for me or anyone else. It's a reflection of what people like because lets face it, if no one listened to the new sounds, it would never take off. As Yankee mentioned earlier, its an evolution that happens generation to generation. As long as their is quality stuff I like being produced and places to go see it, I'm happy that I can pick and choose my battles.

You can always hold on to the tracks you loved in the past and try and share that with the new fans. Whether they take to it and can appreciate it... is another story.


Posted by ejoffe on Aug-30-2011 02:26:

a great article I read a couple months back on the industry

article


Posted by DJ Eco on Aug-30-2011 04:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Excess
everybody sucks and nobody makes good music anymore


Stop being such a downer, Santos!


Posted by BradMiller on Aug-30-2011 05:27:

quote:
Originally posted by ejoffe
a great article I read a couple months back on the industry

article


Excellent read!



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