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Beginner - point me in le right direction!

Hello guys, am new to this great site and have been aborbing info here like a sponge in the last few days. I am a trance lover and have been loving trance for years, I listen to every trance podcast under the sun in hope that I will discover new talent on the scene.

Now I need someone to point me in the right direction here, I have been using FL for the past few years mainly for experimenting and now, I want to move on to other software with a more 'proffesional' name. I know that it can be done with FL, I'm not dissing it because it's great, but I would like to move on to something which allows for more creativity. Now that I've discovered this site, I feel I can achieve my dream of creating a quality slice of trance. If anyone could give me suggestions or tips I would appreciate it! Or books and tutorials perhaps.

If your used to FL then stick with it, seriously!

All the info you could possibly need to start off is right here



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dj wungchow in the haus doesnt ring vry well..

saw fingr?

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Originally posted by KilldaDJ saw fingr?

yes please

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Now days I think u can't say anymore that DAW x is better then DAW y, specially if you want to produce trance. FLs will provide you anything to make a trance tune. Other tips ... don't know, I am newbie to, but what I can say is: be original, don't be afraid to try new techniques, eq u'r channels, remove low freq when u don't need them and most important I think, learn your speakers/hphones!

Cheers !

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Re: Beginner - point me in le right direction!

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Originally posted by wungchow I know that it can be done with FL, I'm not dissing it because it's great, but I would like to move on to something which allows for more creativity.

Do you know what "creativity" means? It's not a feature in a DAW, it's how you approach your workstation and what works best for you. I use FL and I used to think I had to switch just because of its reputation, but it's not a toy like it used to be. It's a serious piece of software and it's not going to limit you in any significant way.

Beyond that it sounds like you're just asking how to make good trance music, which is way too general of a question for one thread. There's resources in the stickied threads, check those out. If you get stuck on anything, Google it, or ask us some specific questions, but right now you're looking for an answer to a question that doesn't have one.

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Originally posted by Kysora Do you know what "creativity" means? It's not a feature in a DAW, it's how you approach your workstation and what works best for you. I use FL and I used to think I had to switch just because of its reputation, but it's not a toy like it used to be. It's a serious piece of software and it's not going to limit you in any significant way. Beyond that it sounds like you're just asking how to make good trance music, which is way too general of a question for one thread. There's resources in the stickied threads, check those out. If you get stuck on anything, Google it, or ask us some specific questions, but right now you're looking for an answer to a question that doesn't have one.

^ excellent response


Also, just a side note: I recently switched to Logic from FL Studio, for three reasons:

- I'm primarily a Mac user these days
- I thought it would be fun to change up my workflow, see if it would open new doors
- Admittedly.... it's "cooler" to respond with "Logic" than "FL Studio" when someone asks...

The last point is juvenile, but I'm just being honest. I simply got tired of sounding like a Fruity Noob and having a conversation about how far FL has come as a DAW every time I had a discussion with another producer.

Anyway, so far I've had mixed results. Am I learning new things and new ways of working? Sure. Are there some features I really like about Logic? Absolutely. Do I feel like it has helped me? Ehhh, that's questionable. I'm still feeling very hindered by using Logic, because I have to research every little stupid thing I want to do since I'm used to a different thought process. I find myself missing FL Studio quite a bit. Tossing together the meat and potatoes of a song takes me 10 times longer now.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still giving Logic a go because I like knowing more than one tool for the job. But, the moral of the story is, don't underestimate the power of experience, nor of FL Studio... it's just fine.

Back when I started producing about 5 years ago it seemed like FL Studio was still being mocked as an inferior DAW. I don't hear that nearly as much now, I think most producers have come around.

Still, even I can admit I'd feel a bit more professional saying I work with Logic or Cubase than FL Studio, since that's the go-to DAW for new producers most of the time. But, whatever. It works for me.

Re: Beginner - point me in le right direction!

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Originally posted by wungchow le

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Originally posted by Kysora Back when I started producing about 5 years ago it seemed like FL Studio was still being mocked as an inferior DAW. I don't hear that nearly as much now, I think most producers have come around.

For me I think the likes of Nitrous oxdie, Arty and Juventa have helped do this by proving FL can do the job (in trance anyway). Your certainly right in what you say, you don't hear of it now..

Most importantly though I think people need to realise its not the software that makes the difference but the guys putting the ideas from their head into the computers. Don't matter which Daw you choose its down to your own skill at the end of the day on how your tracks turn out. Just don't expect to see results straight away, it takes alot of time and dedication.

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Ok so perhaps I will stay with FL since I already have a firm knowledge on it, can anyone recommend me some good plugins or drum kits for it and how to implement them? would be a great help

"Good plugins" is quite vague.

If you're looking for the INSTANT HIT plugin, you won't find one. What are you looking to accomplish?

Can we please stop enabling this guy? Seriously, I don't mean to come off as a prick, but if you're new to production you kind of need to test the waters yourself. No amount of text on a screen is going to direct your future in music production better than actually doing it yourself.

I mentioned the stickied topics -- threads that are clearly marked with a Please Read, mind you -- and your follow-up question was regarding drum kits and synths. A topic that is covered right here in a stickied topic (under "Other")

I'm seriously not trying to be mean, this is just tough love. I told you where to find resources and you either didn't look very hard before giving up, or didn't try at all. And now you're asking us to do more of the work for you. I know the music production world is a bit daunting but you really need to stop asking vague questions that really have no answer -- there are only so many "rules" that are set in stone and apply to everyone, and they can either be found here or with a bit of Google-fu. The rest you need to figure out for yourself. Trust me, you'll be better off for it in the long run.

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Originally posted by Kysora Can we please stop enabling this guy? Seriously, I don't mean to come off as a prick, but if you're new to production you kind of need to test the waters yourself. No amount of text on a screen is going to direct your future in music production better than actually doing it yourself. I mentioned the stickied topics -- threads that are clearly marked with a Please Read, mind you -- and your follow-up question was regarding drum kits and synths. A topic that is covered right here in a stickied topic (under "Other") I'm seriously not trying to be mean, this is just tough love. I told you where to find resources and you either didn't look very hard before giving up, or didn't try at all. And now you're asking us to do more of the work for you. I know the music production world is a bit daunting but you really need to stop asking vague questions that really have no answer -- there are only so many "rules" that are set in stone and apply to everyone, and they can either be found here or with a bit of Google-fu. The rest you need to figure out for yourself. Trust me, you'll be better off for it in the long run.

Can I get an answer to one question that I can't find on the forums: what is the dj-friendly bpm for trance

because 135 seems to be too fast yet 130 seems to be too slow

Try 132.5

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Originally posted by wungchow Can I get an answer to one question that I can't find on the forums: what is the dj-friendly bpm for trance because 135 seems to be too fast yet 130 seems to be too slow

Apparently we listen to vastly different trance, since most of what I listen to is between 135 and 140.

Oh, getting troll'd. Righto then, carry on. :P

Wow seriously? Wikipedia could tell you the BPM.

BPM varies from track to track too. DJ's gotta beat match, not us.

The trance I listen to is around 180 to 185.... oh did I say japanese trancecore/freeform? sorry.

Kysora is right, use the stickies.

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Originally posted by wungchow Can I get an answer to one question that I can't find on the forums: what is the dj-friendly bpm for trance because 135 seems to be too fast yet 130 seems to be too slow

lol good effort

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Originally posted by wungchow ...135 seems to be too fast yet 130 seems to be too slow

That's one of the many limitations of Fruity Loops. Actually, most DAWs costing under $1000 will feel like they're playing in the wrong time. Your only option is to buy Nuendo with its Dynamic Tempo Fluidity (DTF) technology, which self-adjusts its tempo according to your perception and mood to always feel just right. Nuendo also has a More Creativity bundle, but you have to pay extra for that package.

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Originally posted by cryophonik That's one of the many limitations of Fruity Loops. Actually, most DAWs costing under $1000 will feel like they're playing in the wrong time. Your only option is to buy Nuendo with its Dynamic Tempo Fluidity (DTF) technology, which self-adjusts its tempo according to your perception and mood to always feel just right. Nuendo also has a More Creativity bundle, but you have to pay extra for that package.

I completely agree, except you also need EVERY Nexus bundle (2000 USD) and all Vengeance Club Essentials (100 bucks a pop) if you want to make trance.

But remember, having these tools me and Cyro speak of will make you a master of music! Think Swedish House Mafia.

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Originally posted by skyhunter Think Swedish House Mafia.

So sell outs like David Guetta that decided fame and money were more important than quality?

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Originally posted by djshire So sell outs like David Guetta that decided fame and money were more important than quality?

Exactly!

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