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Effects in Mixing

Just wondering over here, why is it that when you go to massives and you see the top of the class trance dj's play, it seems that they barely mix in any effects into their tracks? They mostly let them play, mix a lil in deadspace, then mix into the next track. I mean, I could be totally wrong and not heard it as much from being, well, not entirely sober haha.

Anyways let me know your thoughts, thanks!

too much effects could get annoying....do you really want to hear the flanger on every build up lol...or constant echo's? its used when needed, and quite honestly, they use it more than you would think.

Forsure I could see that, it makes sense. I wish I could pick up on it more, I've been listening to live sets lately I just dont hear it a whole lot, and it seems like alot of what you pay for getting equipment, although I do agree too much would be annoying.

a live set is different than a radio show set, in radio shows there are almost no effects, maybe they use the filter to drop the bass or Aly & Fila used to use a crunchy flanger in some energetic transitions.

As for live sets it's really annoying if you constantly use the effects, unless you are a pro with it and your kind of sets are like Eddie Halliwell, Kutski, Zabiela etc... however many djs use the filter in their transitions as said, this helps a lot to avoid basses clashing.

Flanger,Delay, Reverb... on some specific tracks it works well but nowadays trance tracks are cluttered enough and trance is a style that it's pretty straight forward, you play the track and let it sound, it's not like techno where "doing something else" it's almost compulsory

i try to use zero effects in my transitions, keep it simple stupid

i might kill the bass or cut stuff up occasionally..

So why did I just buy a thousand dollar piece of hardware (a traktor kontrol s4)? *facepalm*

traktor s4 isn't a bad investment that's the future. Effects are cool but you don't need them, if you plan to have gigs in club you can bring the controller and do some fancy things with it

listen to a nic fanciulli live set..or better yet joris voorn.....its obvious how often voorn uses this specific effect....constantly....(essential mix)

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Originally posted by St.Croix So why did I just buy a thousand dollar piece of hardware (a traktor kontrol s4)? *facepalm*

I think the S4 is waaaaaaayyy reasonable price to pay for a very decent DJ setup. A decent set of CDJs and a mixer will cost you more.

I've got shitloads of equipment that has cost me lots and lots of cash, and if I mix trance I hardly ever do the effects stuff. Filters = awesome.

If you have the S4 though, HOTCUES!!!!!!!!!!!! = FTW!!!! 8 hotbues/ deck is the shit.. honestly just for that feature alone its totaly worth the price.
Sample decks, I can't really do more than I can with just the 4 decks in traktor pro, <-- I see the vids and such, but I find it annoying to have to set up a set in such detail beforehand. With the standard hotcues I find it much less hassle and more or less the same results of awesomeness...

Key word: subtlety.

Or not, depending on your mood and preference.

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Originally posted by St.Croix So why did I just buy a thousand dollar piece of hardware (a traktor kontrol s4)? *facepalm*

The S4 is awesome. I purchased it about a month ago and I'm still learning about all it can do. You invested well. No *facepalm*

You don't need effects except for maybe an occasional bass filter for transitioning. But in reality you don't even need that.

the effects in trakttor are brutal. No idea why they would not support AU or VSTs. Live is a much better platform for effects.

Effects blow.

So does dodgy turntablism. Silly volume cutting or anything that effects the audio significantly that is executed poorly.

Good use of EQ or filters otherwise let the tunes talk.

There are, of course rare exceptions where perhaps you throw an echo over a filter on tune A as tune B descends into a breakdown or something, but otherwise leave it alone.

I think using effects on its own with out understanding what its purpose is, is like showing your ignorance.

But I think when one does music production do you really find out how effects work.

Therefore when playing with effects do you know when to use them or not. That's why the top DJ's can use them with out you knowing they using them

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