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Posted by darin epsilon on Sep-12-2011 09:20:

12th Planet, Excision, Skrillex & more on KoRn's 'dubstep' album

Saw this article today on InTheMix.com.au. What are your thoughts? First we have news that Paris Hilton and David Guetta are working on an album together, and now on the opposite side of the coin, a KoRn and Skrillex collab.

For me personally, I think dubstep and metal surprisingly go hand in hand. Both are very aggressive and in-your-face styles of music that primarily appeal to teens (not actually a fact but just something I have observed from afar). However, I would have expected KoRn to do a dubstep side project, not a full album!

http://www.inthemix.com.au/news/int...s_dubstep_album

Warning: Do not play if you are offended by explicit lyrics.

Korn - Get Up (Feat. Skrillex) by kornofficial

File this one under �headlines you wouldn�t have seen two years ago�. On 12 November 2011, nu-metal survivors Korn will release album number ten, The Path To Totality, which normally wouldn�t raise a blip on the inthemix radar. Things are different this time, though, thanks to the involvement of bass fiends Kill The Noise, Excision, 12th Planet and Skrillex, who readied us for all this back in April. That�s right, concerned citizens of the world: Korn has made its �dubstep album�.

With fittingly Korn-y titles like Chaos Lives In Everything, Narcissistic Cannibal and Burn The Obedient, The Path To Totality is certainly a curious prospect. �Normally it would drive me crazy because I think drum machines are soulless,� Korn�s drummer Ray Lazier told Download magazine. �But [singer Jonathan Davis] said, �No, we�re going to experiment with triggers,� which I�ve never done before. So we actually triggered the sounds Skrillex made with my kit � I�m actually playing them live.�

As we hardly need to tell you, the reaction from Korn acolytes has been decidedly mixed. Sample message board appraisal: �Dubstep is the dumbest f***ing thing ever created.� However you cut it, it�s certainly notable that the likes of Summadayze visitor 12th Planet and Excision are throwing their weight behind such a divisive band. Have a listen to the Skrillex collab Get Up to assess whether you�re intrigued or queasy at the prospect of an album�s worth of this.


Posted by -FSP- on Sep-12-2011 09:29:

I think the music journalism illuminati or the fans need to make a new name for this so-called "dubstep" sound that folks like skrillex are making.

When I think dubstep, I think of el-b, burial, james blake, kode9, which have a very distinctive UK sound that's derivative from garage.

When I hear skrillex's stuff, I just hear alt rock with synths. Skrillex and El-B sound like night and day.


Posted by darin epsilon on Sep-12-2011 09:38:

quote:
Originally posted by -FSP-
I think the music journalism illuminati or the fans need to make a new name for this so-called "dubstep" sound that folks like skrillex are making.


Should call it "metalstep" or "moshstep" now. Where is Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music when you need it?


Posted by nefardec on Sep-12-2011 12:13:

quote:
Originally posted by -FSP-
I think the music journalism illuminati or the fans need to make a new name for this so-called "dubstep" sound that folks like skrillex are making.




dubclash

angstep

teenstep

misanthrostep


Posted by Rodri Santos on Sep-12-2011 12:18:

well Korn already did an album with Infected Mushroom metal + edm isn't new but yes, pretty strange that they go straight for the album instead of testing with a single on the first place.


Posted by Darkarbiter on Sep-12-2011 12:34:

quote:
Originally posted by darin epsilon
Should call it "metalstep" or "moshstep" now. Where is Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music when you need it?

The new edition is 10 years late, honestly why doesn't TA make a new one?

Just need someone with flash skills co ordinating it, or a co ordinator and someone with flash skills.


Posted by stev� on Sep-12-2011 13:23:

i actually like it. both metal and brostep/american wobble dubstep are genres that are "incomplete", to me. metal has all the soul pouring out in the vocals and guitars, but the beat department is lacking and uninspiring (all the drummers sound the same). brostep has great drums and rhythm, and has all the angst aesthetic, it just needs actual full lyrical vocals to complete it. they complete each other.


Posted by Mr Game+Watch on Sep-12-2011 14:02:

It's funny, a friend of mine who was huge into nu-metal in the late 90's (Korn, Limp Bizkit)... is now big into Skrillex, and wanted to go to Electric Zoo with me to specifically see him. I could definitely see the 2 genres go hand in hand.


Posted by Dj Pluviose on Sep-12-2011 14:36:

I get nothing but kids on who come up to me and try to educate me on how badass Skrillex is. I get slut whore e-tard candy gogo girls who tell me they love him and wanna suck his d*ck but they get their panties bunched because Skrillex is a fag.

Still a fag.


Posted by Sykonee on Sep-12-2011 15:45:

Brostep is essentially the new nu-metal: dumb-fuck mosh music. In less than a year, we're likely to see former trance producers jump on the brostep bandwagon, and we'll have our Linkin Park of the genre, officially signaling its coming demise.





(one can hope...)


Posted by nefardec on Sep-12-2011 15:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
Brostep is essentially the new nu-metal: dumb-fuck mosh music. In less than a year, we're likely to see former trance producers jump on the brostep bandwagon, and we'll have our Linkin Park of the genre, officially signaling its coming demise.





(one can hope...)


i would say it's the new screamo/electroclash


Posted by Sykonee on Sep-12-2011 16:06:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
i would say it's the new screamo/electroclash

Nah. Electroclash actually had some good, fun music behind it.


Posted by BeatsAndBeyond on Sep-12-2011 16:27:

I thought this stuff already existed as "Industrial" metal?


Posted by Darkarbiter on Sep-12-2011 17:11:

quote:
Originally posted by BeatsAndBeyond
I thought this stuff already existed as "Industrial" metal?


Sounds nothing like industrial metal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLo7DM7pnwE

That's what industrial metal is like (possibly more to the metal side, but it's somewhere along the metal to industrial line of things)

Someone's spent too much time on ishkur's guide


Posted by Rodri Santos on Sep-12-2011 17:15:

quote:
Originally posted by BeatsAndBeyond
I thought this stuff already existed as "Industrial" metal?


Most representative industrial metal band is Rammstein, they take some edm influence with synth stabs flanger filters but it's not electronic music.


Posted by Darkarbiter on Sep-12-2011 17:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Rodri Santos
Most representative industrial metal band is Rammstein, they take some edm influence with synth stabs flanger filters but it's not electronic music.

Well they're popular lately, but as far as I know they weren't particularly innovative and they didn't bring terribly many new styles to prominence.

How many industrial metal bands have you heard of being described as like rammstein? I'd go with ministry for a bog standard pick.

For a more experimental style (and definitely one of the most influential bands in history)

Killing joke-intellect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhZSBjC89Sk&feature=related


Posted by Rodri Santos on Sep-12-2011 17:25:

there are a lot of bands that sound alike wouldn't say that they were pioneers on the genre but they took their inspiration directly from Kraftwerk and pushed it a bit further, around 80's with all the disco hype edm started to mix with rock/pop but i think they were one of the firsts to introduce it in metal and now many metal bands have a keyboard and some synths around.


Posted by nefardec on Sep-12-2011 18:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
Nah. Electroclash actually had some good, fun music behind it.


i think we can all agree it's just the latest 'loud angsty teenage rage music'


Posted by BeatsAndBeyond on Sep-12-2011 19:41:

lar to me.

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter

Sounds nothing like industrial metal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLo7DM7pnwE

That's what industrial metal is like (possibly more to the metal side, but it's somewhere along the metal to industrial line of things)

Someone's spent too much time on ishkur's guide


That's funny. Because Rob Zombie was exactly who I had in mind when I posted that question.





Sounds similar to me.


Posted by Gauss on Sep-12-2011 19:47:

Skrillex ≠ dubstep

That sample track was horrible.


Posted by darin epsilon on Sep-12-2011 20:21:

What the hell is brostep?

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec

angstep


Haha I like the sound of angstep.

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
The new edition is 10 years late, honestly why doesn't TA make a new one? Just need someone with flash skills co ordinating it, or a co ordinator and someone with flash skills.


It should be like a Wikipedia so the whole community can work on it. Think about how much more accurate it would be if experts from the genre contributed? We'd still need someone to insert the snarky comments though.


Posted by Rodri Santos on Sep-12-2011 20:25:

Ishkur's guide is the kind of biased comment a guetto rap listener does, it's clear what he supports and what he doesn't.


Posted by shaw on Sep-12-2011 22:03:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
misanthrostep




Nefardec was also the first person I saw use "brostep."

Where the hell is the ATL crew? They should be ODing over this news already.


Posted by MR STROKE on Sep-13-2011 00:05:

That sample Korn track was atrocious. Too bad, I love Korns previous work, but if this is the direction of their new album count me out.


Posted by enydo on Sep-13-2011 01:14:

I was going to say they should go with calling it Middle-Class-America-I-Discovered-Drugs-Recently-Teen-Angstep, but avanavana beat me to it through much more succinct means.


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