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Posted by Pointy on Apr-10-2001 23:39:

I wanna get a pair of decks and a mixer but i have a question. If i got a mixer which shows the BPM's, would it be good for me?.. it's hard to explain but i'll try. Cos just say i got one which shows the BPM's, would it be "cheating" seeing that im not doing the mixing in my head and that if i spun at a club which had mixers without BPM counters, would i find it hard to mix seeing i dont have the luxury of having the BPM rate in front of me?

What im mainly asking is should i get a mixer with a BPM counter or a standard mixer as my first mixer?

Hopefully i made some sense in this post

Posted by sKyBreAK on Apr-11-2001 00:24:

up to you.
just tape up the BPM counter lol
but you should practise w/o the BPM

Posted by keppj0nes on Apr-11-2001 02:08:

yeah learn how to beat match without bpm. beginning with a bpm counter can ruin skills. A bpm counter is made just to make experienced people better.

Posted by jon jon on Apr-11-2001 04:31:

For sure, I completely agree with these boys. Listen when I started mixing, I bought the ghettoest (shit) mixer I could find. So that way I could work my skills up that way. You know what I mean, play tetris on difficult then go to easy, your a fucking pro! hah

I highly suggest getting a mixer without bass control, their like 30$. hah Your learn how to beatmatch in like 3 days haha. I fucking swear.

*just my advice, and Paul Oakenfold I aint!*

hah

Jonathan

Posted by Pointy on Apr-12-2001 04:33:

hmm alrighty then.... if you have the time coulda PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE go to www.djbargains.net and advise me on which mixer to get (i wouldn't really wanna go above US$300

Posted by sKyBreAK on Apr-12-2001 10:53:

vestex pcm-170 looks cool w/ me if your looking for stuff under 300 bucks.
stanton rm3 looks alright.
if you still want the bpm counter get the pioneer djm-300

Posted by keppj0nes on Apr-14-2001 03:05:

my first mixer was a gemini ps-626 (the newer version with the beat lights). It really promotes thorough beat matching and it is under US 300$

Posted by lexiconavenue on Apr-14-2001 03:15:

i think mixers w/ bpm counters on em are shit. they do a horrible job of calculating complex rhythms, just a waste of time if you ask me. i say, learn to beat match on your own. but then again, if you're experienced and just dont feel like trying to find bpm's, it may come in handy.

Lexi

Posted by Lexicon on Apr-14-2001 03:17:

BPM counter are sh*t if you are using it to learn how to beatmatch. I know this guy who solely uses BPM counter to assist him in his beatmatching....

After 5 months of practising and sh*t, he realized that the BPM counter is wrecking him and now he is starting afresh without the aid of BPM counter.

Talk about wasting time.
Your ears are ones you depend on and also get a good pair of headphones 'cos you'll be needing it.

Posted by lexiconavenue on Apr-14-2001 05:20:

name?

good call Lexicon. hey, wait a minute..........

Posted by Peter Campbell on Apr-14-2001 13:32:

quote:
Originally posted by halo20
For sure, I completely agree with these boys. Listen when I started mixing, I bought the ghettoest (shit) mixer I could find. So that way I could work my skills up that way. You know what I mean, play tetris on difficult then go to easy, your a fucking pro! hah

I highly suggest getting a mixer without bass control, their like 30$. hah Your learn how to beatmatch in like 3 days haha. I fucking swear.

*just my advice, and Paul Oakenfold I aint!*

hah

Jonathan
looks like this bloke knows his stuff , I would take his advice

Posted by Pointy on Apr-16-2001 07:33:

another question... (note: im not a newbie to trance, just to mixing)...

to Beatmatch you change the speed on the turntables (pitch level or whatever) so the beats are going at the same speed and same time?.. am i correct in saying this or is it totally different..and also, you wouldn't try to mix a 150bpm song with a 135bpm song unless you want it to sound shit right?

Posted by Pointy on Apr-16-2001 07:41:

oh yeah
i just went to dj bargains again and looking at the Gemini section

would one of these be good?.. http://www.djbargains.net/audio/mixers/entrygemini.htm??

well, to me, they're cheap, look pretty fancy, but are they actually good, especially for a first mixer.

thanks.

Posted by SeeK on Apr-16-2001 14:21:

Gemini

Well Gemini is a good choice, i got the Ps-626 and have had it for about 2 years, and no problems yet, pretty much what i started on, U dont really need BPM counters, cos i couldnt afford the model with the BPM counter i thought id get the PS-626 cos its got the LED BPM meters, basically flash with the beat. Well when it came down to it, didnt even really take notice of them when i was mixing, well they can help but the mixer would do same job if it didnt have them. basically Its your Cash, and your choice, so hope ive helped a bit.

DJ-Ahmet

Posted by Bellie on Apr-18-2001 20:14:

I really dont use them beatcounters.I think there annoying.
I just listen to the beat.And reaaaaal often i look just to be definitly sure the records are similar to each other

GREETZ!!