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Posted by Raphie on Sep-28-2011 13:46:

my Mastering crosscheck reference setup

6KW power
2x Behringer iNuke NU3000
2x Behringer 1800B Pro 18" subs
2x Behringer 1520B Pro tops
1x Behringer DEQ2496 Processor

Works just fine at testing club masters at club levels
ofcourse only when being worked at my mastering studio (link below)

Don't settle with 6" monitors and Ozone "master" guys


Posted by Raphie on Sep-28-2011 14:20:

So, I've got my studio, that's where is think i can trust my setup and ears and where i do my processing
once the first run of the master is ready, i copy it to USB and plug it in the CDJ850 and play it inbetween let's say David Guetta, Afrojack and Axel Karakacis so see how the track compares both on percieved volume and punch/impact

9 out of 10 times i got it near how i want it to translate the first time, sometimes i find that i overestimated the lows a bit so where it sounds fine on hifi, i tend to grab the low on the mixer to shelve a DB or so on the low end. If that's the case i go back to the studio and tweak some settings.

So see it as a sanity check to make sure it actually translates in the club how i think it should translate.

I also have a Mackie SRM450 V2 combo (you can see 1 unit used as "booth monitor" on the left together with a Mackie SWA1505 sub, but i can tell you 2x 18" + 2x 15" driven at 6KW is something else


Posted by skyhunter on Sep-28-2011 19:36:

Re: my Mastering crosscheck reference setup

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie


Don't settle with 6" monitors and Ozone "master" guys



HEY. Don't talk about me that way!

Just kidding, I use Afrojack's method, Fruity Compressor

Those are some pretty crazy speakers though...


Posted by Terrence Parker on Sep-28-2011 23:13:

Thats my crosscheck


















just kidding


Posted by itsamemario on Sep-29-2011 17:00:

In addition to my genelec 8020a production monitors, I have a pair of Final Audio Opus 204's and another pair of Kharma Grand Exquisites that I A/B on, granted I only bought the Opuses because of they're shiny, I still feel my music get's that little extra edge you'd won't get if you only test them on consumer level speakers. The GE's have a very nice sound to them as well, and they go perfect with my champagne cooler, so it's a Win/Win/Winning for everybody really.


Posted by DJ RANN on Sep-29-2011 21:26:

Nice Raphie but Behringer? really?

And you test against Afrojack, Guetta and Axel?

What lack in taste you make up for in equipment


While we're on the subject, here's Danny Tenaglias Home Studio Club reference system:





Posted by cryophonik on Sep-29-2011 22:03:



I would have to hear that room for myself to be convinced that it sounds like anything other than a damned gymnasium.


Posted by DJ RANN on Sep-29-2011 22:11:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik


I would have to hear that room for myself to be convinced that it sounds like anything other than a damned gymnasium.


In some ways though it makes sense; Danny's sound came from the whole loft/warehouse scene, and that setup is just a nice version of that. It actually makes sense if that's what your musical aesthetic and feel is about.


Posted by MSZ on Sep-29-2011 22:13:

raphie saw thomas's mastering thread and he was getting shortness of breath, he rushed to the store quickly and took pics. all is good now.


Posted by DJ RANN on Sep-29-2011 22:24:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MSZ
raphie saw thomas's mastering thread and he was getting shortness of breath, he rushed to the store quickly and took pics. all is good now. [/QUOTE

Lol. I was thinking it was about that. In fairness though, JJ's production setup is wish list material and most pro studios have a very close setup to what he's rocking in terms of conversion, outboard and monitoring.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Sep-30-2011 01:00:

most engineers are using their earbuds


Posted by skyhunter on Sep-30-2011 01:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
most engineers are using their earbuds


My god that's lame, everyone know's the pros use the Beats by Dre.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Sep-30-2011 01:13:

lol

i'm being honest. WHere we get our stuff mastering, big speakers to impress clientele, as a last reference , well it all depends , most won't even bother but for pop, your golden medium is the standard ipod earbud.

This should be the same for EDM if EDM producers actually sold their products to people other than djs.

Anyways Raphie, i have no fucking idea how your wife lets you get away with that shit. I have to like smuggle my shit in when she is out.


Posted by Raphie on Sep-30-2011 07:00:

Rann that room is is INSANE, if only I would have the means

Behringer has ver bad rep, but since they bought some companies like MIDAS amongst others, they've changed course.

I would still not buy their entry level or DJ mixers, but for example their digital mixer is a great product, so is their iNUKE line of amps.

If you've got the opportunity give it a go somewhere, you might be surprised of some of the little gems you might find in their linecart.

The passive B PRO series monitors are really good as well, not bright at all and the 1800pro and 1520pro stack nicely frequency range like.

I did not really feel the urge to show and tell, but it has been some time posting here just let you guys know i'm still out there

Got married along the way as well, which helps a lot in creating goodwill for these kind of investments As does finally going on honeymoon after nearly a month of business travel.

Didn't do anything productionwise after the Telic and Sasha remix comps.
current focus is really mastering and engineering, where "stem mastering" or full track mixing (just a full individual track dump form start to end) seem to happen more and more. I've also already had a few projects where we went back to the midi of some instruments and revoiced them with some other kit. With all the felixbility available boundaries dissapear and there are a lot of creative ways to work together.

I guess fiddling knobs is by far more my fort� than writing interesting arrangements. I've hit a plateau there, not being able or motivated to step outside my little boring habits. That's why i find working on other people's creations far more re-invigorating and my contribution to the end result more rewarding.

And i guess that's where my customer sweetspot is as well, i'm being asked to assist, after the creative wrting and building part, where people want to get the mix "right" and they sort of get stuck.
As opposed to the traditional "i'll process it for ya" mastering aproach.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Sep-30-2011 17:03:

well get rid of the assets before the kids arrive.


Posted by DJ RANN on Sep-30-2011 17:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
Rann that room is is INSANE, if only I would have the means

Behringer has ver bad rep, but since they bought some companies like MIDAS amongst others, they've changed course.

I would still not buy their entry level or DJ mixers, but for example their digital mixer is a great product, so is their iNUKE line of amps.

If you've got the opportunity give it a go somewhere, you might be surprised of some of the little gems you might find in their linecart.

The passive B PRO series monitors are really good as well, not bright at all and the 1800pro and 1520pro stack nicely frequency range like.

I did not really feel the urge to show and tell, but it has been some time posting here just let you guys know i'm still out there

Got married along the way as well, which helps a lot in creating goodwill for these kind of investments As does finally going on honeymoon after nearly a month of business travel.

Didn't do anything productionwise after the Telic and Sasha remix comps.
current focus is really mastering and engineering, where "stem mastering" or full track mixing (just a full individual track dump form start to end) seem to happen more and more. I've also already had a few projects where we went back to the midi of some instruments and revoiced them with some other kit. With all the felixbility available boundaries dissapear and there are a lot of creative ways to work together.

I guess fiddling knobs is by far more my fort� than writing interesting arrangements. I've hit a plateau there, not being able or motivated to step outside my little boring habits. That's why i find working on other people's creations far more re-invigorating and my contribution to the end result more rewarding.

And i guess that's where my customer sweetspot is as well, i'm being asked to assist, after the creative wrting and building part, where people want to get the mix "right" and they sort of get stuck.
As opposed to the traditional "i'll process it for ya" mastering aproach.


Don't get me wrong me I know Behringer make a few good products (BCF range, Truths etc) but their old PA stuff (in fact most of their products) were just horrible rip offs of mackie gear.

From what i heard they bought midas because MIDAS were about to go under and it gave Behringer credibility. In fairness they probably got a ton of good R&D from it and high end expertise so that may be where the new products are coming from. Hmmm....might have o go have a listen.

How do you like your SRM450's? Personally I cannot stand them - they are quite possibly the harshest sounding PA monitors I've ever heard which is weird because I like a lot of Mackie products, including the SWA1501 sub.


Posted by Raphie on Sep-30-2011 20:25:

Correct the mackies (V2s) are very bright and the SWA1501 is not really what one would call tight. Though together with the thump filter on, you can rock audiences until lets say 100 people with ease.

The Behringer Pro series is a bit more dull en less hyped in the 100<>200hz thump range. But if you turn it up..... smile from ear2ear



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