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really good cueing!

hey ive found alot of top djs are really good at like throwing the cued track in when there is no bassline on the track playing out and then when the bassline finally hits hes cued it perfectly! i was just wondering how the fuck do you do that as you have no coparison in your phones or anything to judge whether your cued record needs a nudge or something! is it just practice practice practics! ?

hehe, in my experience just practice
i occassionaly land a mix like this.. you just get a feel for what sounds right and as you get better you just KNOW the bass is gunna land properly... or hope
good luck with it

just keep the time...im not sure how u do it...but im always feelin the beat...in my head the beat is still going..even when the break hits....then u just land it like you would if it were over a regular transition

Yeah i know what you are talking about. I practice this between Sasha -Befast and James HOlden - I have put out the light. It sounds reaall tight when I get lucky and pull it off correctly.

Yeah if you listen good, you'll still hear the rhytmic pattern. It just takes a little bit of concentration.

IMO, I think it's easy to match vocals to a cued beat.. I can always hear it no problems..

it's all about feel, but when i help ppl learn this stuff i tell em...

after the melody on the song playing when the beats kick in, count 64 beats, usually the melody plays twice in this time, on the 65th beat there will be a crash and you should release the new tune on that beat on the 1st proper beat on the new tune. That is only a general rule of thumb, it will not work every time, but has helped a few of my m8s understand the cueing principle

Good luck m8
Luke

I agree that it's all about feeling the rythym in your head even when there's no beat..more importantly, though, for the cue-ing timing to be absolutely perfect, you have to know exactly how fast or how slow the decks will spin once you release the record, because once you do so there's no turning back- the first bassline would have already been released on the speakers.

Anyone know what the hell I'm talking about?

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Originally posted by Great Outdoors Anyone know what the hell I'm talking about?

Even if there's no bassline then there's usually some sort of rhythm you can match the beats of the incoming track to. If there really isn't - just strings or something, then you can never be quite that it's going to be perfect. In that situation you could put the record in while there is some rhythm and have faith that your beatmatching is good enough to keep it tight until it comes back

Practice.

count the beats as you would normally do and even when it enters the breakdown keep counting, try tapping your foot in time to the beats this should make it easier IMO! and with practice and a good sense of timing ie the ability to hear when the tracks pattern changes! you should be able to get the beats pretty accurate, just remember you will probably have to just ride the pitch as your mixing to get the beats spot on!

Its common Dj sense really

Get the second vinyl you want to mix in and try to get the 3rd beat, meaning the 3rd beat that it starts off with...

When the first song is about to finish try to listen to the 8/8 etc thing and let the second song go off the 3rd beat on the 3rd beat off the first song...




Its pretty hard to understand but i think you understand what i mean, dont you.

haha thanx for the tips guys

Usually the track will have high hats or other instruments that are consistant with the beat. If not, then you can do several things to make the transition. One thing is you can fade the bass on the live track and then mix in etc so that when then bass beat on the incoming track starts, you already have mixed out of the first track.

I'd be careful about phasing though, because most of the time I'll screw up the phasing between the tracks and even get through off on the beats so that I have a BPM twice that of the track (phasing is exactly half way between two beats so you have the double beat).

The only thing you can do for sure is practice with those really hard tracks to mix. I'm sure that quite a lot of djs have tracks that they love to mix with other particular tracks. There are a couple that just go so well that when I spin, I have a couple of tracks that go very well into eachother, or the mix just goes perfectly, or I can use teasers very well etc. Just make sure that you've mixed "hard to mix" tracks on your own before you go live

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Originally posted by Great Outdoors I agree that it's all about feeling the rythym in your head even when there's no beat..more importantly, though, for the cue-ing timing to be absolutely perfect, you have to know exactly how fast or how slow the decks will spin once you release the record, because once you do so there's no turning back- the first bassline would have already been released on the speakers. Anyone know what the hell I'm talking about?

hehe yea, but as you said.. thats really on the line there.. cause if u mess up the cue one bit the crowd will hear it.. dropping in a cue straight to the speakers is always risky

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Originally posted by sektile hehe yea, but as you said.. thats really on the line there.. cause if u mess up the cue one bit the crowd will hear it.. dropping in a cue straight to the speakers is always risky

Exactly. That's why I always try to have the beats going before I throw in a cued track - it's too risky to throw it right in, especially with my lower-torque Numark's ... I'm sure that it's not that great of a problem with Tech's (although it's still risky).

yeah thats fucking hardcore! can you match it with
highats?
can anyone here do whats said above perfect everytim?

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