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Posted by twentypercent on Oct-05-2011 15:32:

wall street protests...is this the start of the revolution?

Wealth disparity has reached an unsustainable level in the US. We are a lot closer to violent protest then meets the eye IMHO. Are the Wall Street protests the start?

It would appear that the powers that be are quieting them up real quick and not letting it get out of hand.


Posted by Vector A on Oct-05-2011 16:07:

The protests are indeed interesting, but most of the actual numbers I have seen thus far are not so impressive. Maybe when they hit the hundreds of thousands the big media will take more notice.


Posted by Arbiter on Oct-05-2011 16:11:

No.


Posted by shaw on Oct-05-2011 18:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
No.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Oct-05-2011 18:47:

You'd think with the internet and all of these social tools and abilities to collaborate easily people could form concrete, simple, and effective messages to rally around, even if the underlying structure and goals were more broad and complicated. The thing that bugs me about these protests is that they fail to achieve either of those things. Their message is complicated and muddied, their goals undefined, and their ability to gain any sort of acceptance by a voting block, or even a popular revolutionary block is nil.

Also there is way too much hyperbole in their messages. Things are not good in the US, they are no where near good, but they are also no where near Egypt, Libya, or Syria bad. We don't have tanks in the streets, we don't have rebel groups, we don't have mass murder committed against our own citizens. These are things that galvanize and motivate a populace to revolt, and its even more true today than it was when we had our first revolution. People are too complacent for them to actually risk anything for change in this country. The problem isn't that they are coerced into being complacent, its that the quality of life in this country still reaches the bare minimum for most people and so they are happy.

Look at China as an example, they are going in the opposite direction. Their quality of life was horrible, and the student democracy movements of the 1980s resulted from that. As their quality of life improved their desire for radical change subsided and they have become mostly complacent. Their quality of life on average is probably somewhat lower on average than the people in the US, but the results are still the same. Even mediocre industrialized, first world standards are enough to keep most people happy enough to not try and make things better for themselves, especially when they have a society that gives them a semblance of free will like our republic does.


Posted by jupiterone on Oct-05-2011 19:01:

MBISON?????


Posted by shaw on Oct-05-2011 19:06:

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
MBISON?????


Probably.


Posted by nefardec on Oct-05-2011 19:39:

damn those ungrateful hippies! this is AM-UR-I-CA. this country was founded on loyalty! we owe it to the founders to take whatever our g̶o̶v̶e̶r̶n̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ mega corporations give us. fuck freedom, facebook.



quote:
Differences in national income equality around the world as measured by the national Gini coefficient. The Gini coefficient is a number between 0 and 1, where 0 corresponds with perfect equality (where everyone has the same income) and 1 corresponds with perfect inequality (where one person has all the income, and everyone else has zero income).


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-05-2011 19:47:

Notice how both black and brown are completely neglected in the legend. What is it you think they're trying to say, nefardec?


Posted by prolikewhoa on Oct-05-2011 19:48:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
damn those ungrateful hippies! this is AM-UR-I-CA. this country was founded on loyalty! we owe it to the founders to take whatever our g̶o̶v̶e̶r̶n̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ mega corporations give us. fuck freedom, facebook.




seeing india as having lower income inequality than the us surprises me! they have such a huge population and rampant poverty. interesting.


Posted by Lira on Oct-05-2011 19:59:

quote:
Originally posted by shaw
quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
No.


Posted by Meat187 on Oct-05-2011 20:00:

A high level of income inequality is actually a good thing. It means that your country is not a communist shithouse where those who are able to perform are robbed by the government in order to give things to all the useless dicks for free. Go South Africa!


Posted by hardcore trancer on Oct-05-2011 20:31:


Posted by nefardec on Oct-05-2011 20:47:

ps i'm probably going back down to zucotti park this evening.


Posted by idoru on Oct-05-2011 21:06:

It'll grow, it'll get greater media attention, and it might even turn violent. Is it going to start some sort of a massive revolution? No.


Posted by prolikewhoa on Oct-05-2011 21:30:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
It'll grow, it'll get greater media attention, and it might even turn violent. Is it going to start some sort of a massive revolution? No.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-05-2011 21:34:

RON PAUL 2012


Posted by Lira on Oct-05-2011 21:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
RON PAUL 2012

THE MAYANS PREDICTED IT!


Posted by Lews on Oct-05-2011 22:21:

Fucking privileged and spoiled hippies.

Not the start of anything meaningful. Just stupid.


Posted by Vector A on Oct-05-2011 22:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Lews
Fucking privileged and spoiled hippies.

What is your basis for this characterization?


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Oct-05-2011 22:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Vector A
What is your basis for this characterization?


Nef.


Posted by Vector A on Oct-05-2011 22:56:

Sample size of one is pretty pitiful.


Posted by Lews on Oct-05-2011 22:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Vector A
What is your basis for this characterization?


They are protesting banks. That makes them hippies.

They have been protesting for a while. The only people who can afford to protest for a long time are privileged and (many, but not all, are) spoiled. Not just anyone can get up and leave their job or school or life behind to protest. Not just anyone is healthy enough to be able to. Protesting is a privilege.

Also, Nef.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-05-2011 23:01:

Don't you understand, Lews? Conditions are so horrendous for them, they cannot possibly get a job in order to pay off their ludicrous student loans! They are instead investing their time in securing a better future for everyone by holding signs and congregating in public spaces, severely inconveniencing the people who hold the jobs that they, themselves, went to school to obtain in the first place!


Posted by shaw on Oct-05-2011 23:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Don't you understand, Lews? Conditions are so horrendous for them, they cannot possibly get a job in order to pay off their ludicrous student loans! They are instead investing their time in securing a better future for everyone by holding signs and congregating in public spaces, severely inconveniencing the people who hold the jobs that they, themselves, went to school to obtain in the first place!


Not sure if serious, but these are my thoughts, exactly.

"whaaaaa. I wanted that job. Waaaaaaa Unfair waaaaaaaa."


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