You don't play progressive house stop thinking that you do

Ahhh... it's been a while since I got a "negative/retarded" comment on this forum... thanks Adam420!

you're welcome

just calling it like it is I didn't intend for any negativity towards you or what you do

and I think it's been a while since you got any comment, period.

Jbutter is 41 fucking years old. fucking hell. aren't you too professional for this section though? you have a professional flyer drawn out, some upcoming gigs, and a celebrity whoring site called twitter. I have none of that.

@Adam420 - I think I know what genre I play, a lot better than "you" know what genre I play... and again, thanks for "another" negative/retarded comment.

@Mattinsanity - You're probably right with the "too professional for this section" comment...

indeed I did. you are too established for this section. give others a chance to promote themselves, such as this poor 22 year old south korean chump. the tracks are decent and club friendly, but I don't think they're progressive house.

In fairness, you don't really play progressive house either, Adam.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J In fairness, you don't really play progressive house either, Adam.

So progressive house pretty much wouldn't describe anything made today, according to you, Jack? Yes it's not the classic progressive sound but it's a hell of a lot closer to having anything to do with it than what this guy is playing, ffs.

Your stuff is certainly a lot better than what he plays, but I think the only reason you're getting pedantic on him is because you don't want to be associated with this stuff. I'm struggling to see why most of the stuff you play is any closer to the source than this nonsense.

Well for one I'd say that it's definitely inspired by it a great degree. But I'm really curious if you could point me to some modern day progressive house, if you think there is any. And not 128 bpm progressive trance.

Well I've been saying for years that we need a new term, because "progressive house" is now totally unhelpful. It is attached to so much music and has so little to do with the context or the sound of the original style. What inspiration are you talking about?

EDIT: To answer your question, the only stuff I can think of recently that really qualifies would be some stuff by the Desert Dwellers, their combination of dubby bass, tribal percussion and cyber-hippy vibes being quite close to the classic progressive sound. It does seem oxymoronic to say something is "progressive house" for sounding 15-20 years old, though.

I'm talking about the fact that a lot of the producers whose tracks I tend to play have derived much of their inspiration from earlier progressive house DJs and the music they played. Whatever, I don't necessarily disagree with you, and you're not wrong about me and progressive house producers/DJs in general (well,there we go again, so for lack of a better term this time) not wanting to be associated with this garbage sound.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J EDIT: To answer your question, the only stuff I can think of recently that really qualifies would be some stuff by the Desert Dwellers, their combination of dubby bass, tribal percussion and cyber-hippy vibes being quite close to the classic progressive sound. It does seem oxymoronic to say something is "progressive house" for sounding 15-20 years old, though.

Was it called progressive house in 1996?

Debatable. I've certainly heard it said that the term "progressive house" vanished in the mid-90s and came back around 1997. I had one rambling ex-clubber email me excitedly about epic house recently and he claimed Slacker was the producer that got everyone talking about "progressive house" again. Simon Reynolds also mentions how progressive re-emerged after a hiatus in the late-90s, stripped of its original connotations and signifying energetic music for heterosexual males (his words).

The 15-20 thing was just a generalisation. Nobody was calling it progressive house in 1991 either.

This track comes pretty close actually, no?



edit: and the thing about progressive house today, is that it's missing that kick. You know what I'm talking about.

Yeah actually, pretty close. Very nice track too. Ironically, Beatport just labels it "house". I don't think most modern progressive has the groove of the real thing, though. Early progressive house was heavily influenced by dub, like almost all early British dance music, which was especially prominent in the basslines. If a track has housey percussion, dubby bass, a reasonable amount of energy and some atmospheric/hippy vibes I'd call that progressive house. Most of the producers you play have never bought a dub record in their life and their tracks have very angular and techy percussion.

haha fair enough. but I'll still refer to it as such as it makes things easier. I guess what this guy is doing isn't so different after all. His music still sucks though

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