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Posted by montana on Oct-10-2011 11:12:

dubstep

here is something that i thought of, now that this type of music is probably getting the most laughs, ridicules and mockings. well atleast from everyone expect people who just got into the music.

this is exactly the same backlash that happened when people where mocking trance and by definition epic trance.

i am probably pointing out the fucking obvious but it's still piss funny to see everyone getting worked up over the brostep. i know i have also criticised brostep and called it not dubstep, so this isn't a case of "let him be without sin cast the first stone". more of a observation.

your thoughts?


Posted by nefardec on Oct-10-2011 13:18:

i think it's quite a bit more like how people mocked the farty brand of 'electro house' that was big in the middle of the past decade.


Posted by montana on Oct-10-2011 13:37:

true. but then again, it goes for all the genres and subgenres.


Posted by klappa on Oct-10-2011 14:44:

Re: dubstep

quote:
Originally posted by montana
here is something that i thought of, now that this type of music is probably getting the most laughs, ridicules and mockings. well atleast from everyone expect people who just got into the music.

this is exactly the same backlash that happened when people where mocking trance and by definition epic trance.

i am probably pointing out the fucking obvious but it's still piss funny to see everyone getting worked up over the brostep. i know i have also criticised brostep and called it not dubstep, so this isn't a case of "let him be without sin cast the first stone". more of a observation.

your thoughts?


What the hell is brostep?


Posted by montana on Oct-10-2011 14:46:

skrillex


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-10-2011 16:36:

Yeah, I've mentioned this before. The fate of the two genres follows almost exactly the same pattern. I would like to see the pattern continue and see some sort of dubstep equivalent to TA in about five years time, where everyone started off listening to Skrillex but now only listens to the Digital Mystikz, shits on every newcomer and spends all their time wishing they were old enough to have gone to the underground dubstep parties back in the "golden era" of 2003-2006.


Posted by klappa on Oct-10-2011 16:56:

quote:
Originally posted by montana
skrillex


Oh man do i hate Skrillex..


Posted by Woony on Oct-10-2011 18:34:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Yeah, I've mentioned this before. The fate of the two genres follows almost exactly the same pattern. I would like to see the pattern continue and see some sort of dubstep equivalent to TA in about five years time, where everyone started off listening to Skrillex but now only listens to the Digital Mystikz, shits on every newcomer and spends all their time wishing they were old enough to have gone to the underground dubstep parties back in the "golden era" of 2003-2006.


Ever heard of Dubstepforum.com?

By the way I don't think Skrillex music is Dubstep anymore. It's 2011 rave music.


Posted by pozz on Oct-10-2011 18:56:

all the quality compositions that were now aren't. i guess most of us on this site are achaeologists.


not a bad thing to do, actually.


Posted by pozz on Oct-10-2011 18:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Woonyxoxo
Ever heard of Dubstepforum.com?

By the way I don't think Skrillex music is Dubstep anymore. It's 2011 rave music.


fuck that. he needs a documentary to back him up. no rave in that.


Posted by bloated_cow on Oct-10-2011 19:41:

Dubstep is whats next, It is the progression of drum n' bass into the next... thing. I dunno, I love it, makes me feel all groovy and dancin like. Detroit seems to have a kickass dub scene. Matt Clark is excellent. Kinda diggin him more than Skrillex. DUB FILTH!!!!!!


Mark Instinct, Trolley Snatcha, Calico, Flux Pavillion, hell even Dieselboy put out a Dubstep mix.


Posted by bloated_cow on Oct-10-2011 19:43:

And as for brostep, I dunno I see many fine ladies gettin down to the dub


Posted by Trance-M on Oct-10-2011 20:38:

quote:
Originally posted by bloated_cow
Dubstep is whats next, It is the progression of drum n' bass into the next... thing. I dunno, I love it, makes me feel all groovy and dancin like.


Do you have an example of what makes you feel all groovy and dancin like? Until now that's what I'm not feeling at all when hearing dubstep.

An example what does that to me is like this: Jan Driver - Drive By.
Not something I would listen at home, but for sure like in a club:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAVEVKt1Q5Y

Maybe something like this? I don't if's dubstep though, but it's kind of groovy: Groovy Dancing Girl


Posted by Woony on Oct-10-2011 21:29:

quote:
Originally posted by bloated_cow
Dubstep is whats next, It is the progression of drum n' bass into the next... thing. I dunno, I love it, makes me feel all groovy and dancin like. Detroit seems to have a kickass dub scene. Matt Clark is excellent. Kinda diggin him more than Skrillex. DUB FILTH!!!!!!


Mark Instinct, Trolley Snatcha, Calico, Flux Pavillion, hell even Dieselboy put out a Dubstep mix.



... Please don't call dubstep dub. That's an entirely different genre.
Also Drum & Bass never progressed into Dubstep.


Posted by pozz on Oct-10-2011 22:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Woonyxoxo
Also Drum & Bass never progressed into Dubstep.


what about neurofunk? guys like Noisia had that wonkwonk and subbass long before dubstep.

example (around 1min30sec):


if you are talking about that melodic stuff you like, then you know dnb has an atmospheric side too.


Posted by enydo on Oct-10-2011 23:29:

Anyone else kinda get the idea that a lot of the more "classic" dubstep dudes are kinda straying away from that sound in favor of a slower more house / garage influenced style?

Martyn's new album is a good reference point if you wanna get an idea of what I'm talking about. Or Scuba's latest EP.


Posted by Dj Pluviose on Oct-10-2011 23:48:

Re: dubstep

quote:
Originally posted by montana
this is exactly the same backlash that happened when people where mocking trance and by definition epic trance.

your thoughts?


You gotta be kidding me, people started to shit on epic Trance? I can understand Vocals/Euro dance, and Ravey-esque 2003-2006 DJ MYSTIK-BABYBOI / DJ SHOG era, but seriously, epic Trance? How could they hate 1997-2002? Unless the haters were specifically 90-96 listeners, then I understand...

This is brostep:


Imagine a bunch of mindless UFC fighters.... no scratch that, imagine a bunch of ZyZZ BROS GOIN INSANE TO DAT DUBSTEP. NOW THAT IS BROSTEP

and if you see fine bitches on the floor for brostep, then you should ask one of those fine bitches if they actually enjoy hearing brostep throughout the whole] night

brostep is basically a bunch of douchebags who call each other bros and think dubstep is the best thing ever created.


Posted by enydo on Oct-11-2011 00:21:

Re: Re: dubstep

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Pluviose
You gotta be kidding me, people started to shit on epic Trance? I can understand Vocals/Euro dance, and Ravey-esque 2003-2006 DJ MYSTIK-BABYBOI / DJ SHOG era, but seriously, epic Trance? How could they hate 1997-2002? Unless the haters were specifically 90-96 listeners, then I understand...


uhhhhh....


Posted by Dj Pluviose on Oct-11-2011 00:29:



Okay disregard my question. I just checked out Ishkur's site and now I found out why.


Posted by justin on Oct-11-2011 05:03:

music is lost


Posted by FuzzQi on Oct-11-2011 05:42:

Sometimes it's just easier to say "I like the sound of this" without worrying what genre it is. That's how I feel about some dubstep, even Skrillex. I guess the thing is I won't tell someone to listen to my awesome electronica mix tape having thrown skrillex on there.


Posted by rawbound on Oct-11-2011 05:55:

quote:
Originally posted by enydo
Anyone else kinda get the idea that a lot of the more "classic" dubstep dudes are kinda straying away from that sound in favor of a slower more house / garage influenced style?

Martyn's new album is a good reference point if you wanna get an idea of what I'm talking about. Or Scuba's latest EP.


That's my understanding aswell. Got no real problem with it though since they still put out quality stuff.


Posted by Redd on Oct-11-2011 06:22:

Re: Re: dubstep

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Pluviose

This is brostep:


Imagine a bunch of mindless UFC fighters.... no scratch that, imagine a bunch of ZyZZ BROS GOIN INSANE TO DAT DUBSTEP. NOW THAT IS BROSTEP

and if you see fine bitches on the floor for brostep, then you should ask one of those fine bitches if they actually enjoy hearing brostep throughout the whole] night

brostep is basically a bunch of douchebags who call each other bros and think dubstep is the best thing ever created.




If "fine bitches" are dancing to dubstep, and you ask them if they actually enjoy hearing brostep through the whole night - it's brostep?



now excuse me I think I have to go see a doctor.


Posted by montana on Oct-11-2011 08:21:

quote:
Originally posted by enydo
Anyone else kinda get the idea that a lot of the more "classic" dubstep dudes are kinda straying away from that sound in favor of a slower more house / garage influenced style?

Martyn's new album is a good reference point if you wanna get an idea of what I'm talking about. Or Scuba's latest EP.


yes, this is a natural part of the cycles/evolution of any genre or subgenre. in trance, epic and progressive or whatever, this moment is when the original people fleed away from the music and got into techno or house or whatever, basically anything but the tarnished original music.

the people who got onto the modern type thing is eventually either going to get into that or start championing the more edgier or stripped down and atmospheric type music of the genre/subgenre. in epic trance's case, when people got onto the prog thing and deemed that the cool thing.


Posted by Woony on Oct-11-2011 11:22:

quote:
Originally posted by pozz
what about neurofunk? guys like Noisia had that wonkwonk and subbass long before dubstep.

example (around 1min30sec):


if you are talking about that melodic stuff you like, then you know dnb has an atmospheric side too.


The original Dubstep (DMZ) originated from dark UK garage like EL-B, not Drum & Bass. Although the original UK garage probably got a thing or two from jungle/rave.



This is from 2002 for example, there's tunes of this style from before 2000. you can look at countless other example on Youtube.


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