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best hardware synth for bass sounds around $500?

hey guys,

Ive been getting some good results with vsti's but I am in the mood to have some fun and experiment with an old hardware synth purely for bass sounds, any recommendations? Im looking to spend around $500, give or take. Preferably something with knobs and sliders.

cheers,

DSI MoPho. Should find one second hand for that price.

^^^^ many are over 500

Juno 106 is the king.

For bass sounds exclusively, the Waldorf Pulse is a great deal. It's modeled after the MiniMoog and although it doesn't sound as good, it's fat as hell and way better than the MoPho and any digital synth from Roland.

Also, you may be able to get a Nord Lead 2 rack for around $500 (not the Nord Lead 2x).

Another vote for the Mopho.

second the pulse. Hard to find these days tho.

roland jp8080

how do you give advice knowing you have absolutely no insight on synthesizers other than the 2 you've owned for a few months. I don't think you will find one producer that would list the jp 8080 as a synthesizer one would use for bass.

bad advice is worse than no advice. do you honestly think your advice was informed in any way ? I just don't get why you would purposefully give bad advice unless you are an idiot or an attention whore.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney how do you give advice knowing you have absolutely no insight on synthesizers other than the 2 you've owned for a few months. I don't think you will find one producer that would list the jp 8080 as a synthesizer one would use for bass. bad advice is worse than no advice. do you honestly think your advice was informed in any way ? I just don't get why you would purposefully give bad advice unless you are an idiot or an attention whore.

omg it was a joke, did you even know you need a pre amp to even to get the jp to line level not even wit unison its loud enough

now hush

no. I think you make a stupid suggestion not knowing what the fuck you are talking about and retracted your suggestion by saying it was a joke to save face. WHy are you bullshiting me. You just bought a jp 8080 flaunting how great it is then suggest it here. You also ask whether to buy 2 of the worst synths on the planet. I mean honestly, what possible indication have you given that would make any rational person see that as a joke. You just fuck with earnest noobs trying to get good solid advice.

There should be a three strike rule to discourage people that do not know what the fuck they are talking about to not share their bad advice.

Line level ? what does that even mean. To most it would mean the level of a line which makes no fucking sense when you use it the way you do.

Could you at least put a disclaimer that you are a noob and your advice is most likely wrong. I would be ok with you sharing your opinions in this case.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney no. I think you make a stupid suggestion not knowing what the fuck you are talking about and retracted your suggestion by saying it was a joke to save face. WHy are you bullshiting me. You just bought a jp 8080 flaunting how great it is then suggest it here. You also ask whether to buy 2 of the worst synths on the planet. I mean honestly, what possible indication have you given that would make any rational person see that as a joke. You just fuck with earnest noobs trying to get good solid advice. There should be a three strike rule to discourage people that do not know what the fuck they are talking about to not share their bad advice. Line level ? what does that even mean. To most it would mean the level of a line which makes no fucking sense when you use it the way you do. Could you at least put a disclaimer that you are a noob and your advice is most likely wrong. I would be ok with you sharing your opinions in this case.

are you crazy? or what palm was right about you, you need to take your medication

it was a joke. you know what i'm going to say it wasn't just to piss you off and i can say
whatever i want to say and there is nothing you do about it you demented fuck

edit: i had the jp8080 for awhile now you can ask anyone who has seen my sig for the past months

expecting people to take that as as joke is what I would call crazy. No rational person would take what you posted as a joke. I mean on the same fucking page is your i luv my jp8080 pot defending it as the best thing since Nexus.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney expecting people to take that as as joke is what I would call crazy. No rational person would take what you posted as a joke. I mean on the same fucking page is your i luv my jp8080 pot defending it as the best thing since Nexus.

the jp is not even loud enough for a bass you idiot and you said you had one in the past and did not know that?

if this is true your a nub

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Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd the jp is not even loud enough for a bass you idiot and you said you had one in the past and did not know that? if this is true your a nub

lol. not loud enough for bass. How loud does a synth have to be to be a proper bass synth. Again you are talking bullshit. The point is that the OP is a noob. ,WHy would he know that. It isn't obvious and if that were a joke, well any normal rational person would supplement it with something , a smiley for fuck sakes. You give absolutely no indication. And the issue with the jp8080 is not its output level. Why can't you own up to giving bad advice. Is it really that hard for you to be wrong ? This whole , oh it was a joke is like Herman Cain saying, oh that shit about the electric fence, it was a joke. Of course at the time I said it, i was dead serous not showing the slightest sign of a smirk that would give someone the faintest idea that hmm this is a joke.

You are talking to someone that knows humour. And that was not a joke. Nobody here but you sees it as a joke. Not that you were joking. You were trying to be part of the hey i own hardware so I can give hardware advice and be super cool club. And you were called on it. I mean on the same fucking page , your post about how much you luv your jp8080. No mention of those deficiencies. You defend its filtering capabilities which is fucking funny and say it isn't just for leads and pads. hmmm maybe you were talking about bass ? How do you say the shit you say with a straight face.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney lol. not loud enough for bass. How loud does a synth have to be to be a proper bass synth. Again you are talking bullshit. The point is that the OP is a noob. ,WHy would he know that. It isn't obvious and if that were a joke, well any normal rational person would supplement it with something , a smiley for fuck sakes. You give absolutely no indication. And the issue with the jp8080 is not its output level. Why can't you own up to giving bad advice. Is it really that hard for you to be wrong ? This whole , oh it was a joke is like Herman Cain saying, oh that shit about the electric fence, it was a joke. Of course at the time I said it, i was dead serous not showing the slightest sign of a smirk that would give someone the faintest idea that hmm this is a joke. You are talking to someone that knows humour. And that was not a joke. Nobody here but you sees it as a joke. Not that you were joking. You were trying to be part of the hey i own hardware so I can give hardware advice and be super cool club. And you were called on it.

omg why do you write so much instead of keeping short and simple and to a point. I guess god didn't make you that way, too bad. Now you said you had a jp8080 and never plugged in it in it seems because the output is so low when it comes into the A/D stage thats its completely useless unless connected to a pre amp

wow why do i bother

so how loud does a synth have to be then ?

You realize bass guitars , yup BASS has a rather low output. Does that disqualify it from being used as a bass ? The output level and how you think that is remotely important given that recording in 24 bit makes your so called low level issue not an issue. Any soundcard will have a preamp. You are making an issue over something that isn't an issue. YOu are fumbling for any reason to defend something that honestly i can't figure out why you are defending. The point is that you made a suggestion that no normal human being would take as a joke.

The jp8080 is not a great choice for bass because of the sonic colour. Thats it. it actually does that zimmer styled pluck bass heard in many movies rather well. But as a bass synth ? Awful suggestion.

You aren;t recording a fucking bass clarinet where noise floor might matter. it is a synth. You could get levels at -25 dBfs and be fine. Fuck it , you could get levels at - 40 and still be fine.

So here you are again talking complete bullshit. The output level has no fucking bearing on its sonic quality. A moog with similar output level would not make it a bad synth for bass.

you are so fucking stubborn it is painful. Any excuse to mask your bullshit.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney so how loud does a synth have to be then ? You realize bass guitars , yup BASS has a rather low output. Does that disqualify it from being used as a bass ? The output level and how you think that is remotely important given that recording in 24 bit makes your so called low level issue not an issue. You aren;t recording a fucking bass clarinet where noise floor might matter. it is a synth. You could get levels at -25 dBfs and be fine. So here you are again talking complete bullshit. The output level has no fucking bearing on its sonic quality. A moog with similar output level would not make it a bad synth for bass. you are so fucking stubborn it is painful. Any excuse to mask your bullshit.

you prove to me that you never touched a jp8080, the output is so low can barely hear anything

ima just put you on ignore cuz you won't leave my posts alone cuz it pisses you off and i wait to reply again with the jp8080. Face it you have mental problems and it seems everyone is starting to know that

Edit if you say the j8080 caaan do bass then wtf you know i was joking then

If I had $500 to spend on a synth again I'd by the virus B again, although honestly I'd use something else for sub-bass. Mopho is probably your best bet or the Tetra if you get lucky and find someone late on their bills...

Damn, everyone seems to be getting rid of those TI's.

lol um either your synth is broken, or you haven't figured out the volume knob, or have a broken soundcard.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney lol um either your synth is broken, or you haven't figured out the volume knob, or have a broken soundcard.

i have a motu ultra lite and lavry AD

again you prove to be a newb

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Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd roland jp8080

Awful for bass.

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Originally posted by alanzo Awful for bass.

lol i know i said it for laughs

no you didn't.

and your reason for it not being for bass is based on the fact that you probably have a unit suffering from an issue that wasn't that uncommon ie the output level. That isn't normal and not a valid reason to say oh this isn't made for bass. First off, your unit is broken because output levels are not an issue in a functioning jp8000.

You can't even explain why it would not make a good bass synth. You are fucking clueless. Dumbass with a broken synth preaching how great it is at everything expecting people to assume it was a joke. Your track record isn't great. You were going to buy a radias for fuck sakes. That wasn't a joke. Or was it ? You have no prior history of making jokes in such a dry manner.

I've owned both the rack module and the keyboard. output levels are not a problem. That isn't why one would not consider it a go to synth for bass. if you need a preamp to hear it, your unit is broken. You have owned 2 synths in your lifetime. both acquired what in the last few months yet you call others noobs. One of your units is broken and you haven't figured that out ? And i'm the noob ?

dude stop bullshitting.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney no you didn't. and your reason for it not being for bass is based on the fact that you probably have a unit suffering from an issue that wasn't that uncommon ie the output level. That isn't normal and not a valid reason to say oh this isn't made for bass. First off, your unit is broken because output levels are not an issue in a functioning jp8000. You can't even explain why it would not make a good bass synth. You are fucking clueless. Dumbass with a broken synth preaching how great it is at everything expecting people to assume it was a joke. Your track record isn't great. You were going to buy a radias for fuck sakes. That wasn't a joke. Or was it ? You have no prior history of making jokes in such a dry manner. dude stop bullshitting.

nonono

don't change the subject I'm no gonna finish reading your long boring paragraph

you can see pics of my studio from before and see the i had the JP8000 which worked perfectly

how simple do I have to make this

IF YOU NEED A PRE AMP TO HEAR YOUR SYNTH , IT IS BROKEN.

your reason for it not being a good synth for bass is - you need a preamp.
ergo your unit is broken. Loud enough for a lead but not a bass ? You are making no fucking sense what so ever. And even if it was broken and you were getting such low levels , how the fuck does that related to its capabilities as a bass synth. Use a preamp. done. just like bass players use a preamp.

The reason it is not suggested for bass is the colour, not the fucking output level you dim witted ape.

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