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Posted by cryophonik on Oct-30-2011 22:26:

Cool Classic digital synths that you'd like to see as software

I'm sick of hearing about and talking about analogue emulations. I'd like see some classic digital hardware synths released in software format by the original company (e.g., like Korg did with the Digital Legacy Collection). Topping my list would be:

Yamaha FS1R
Roland D-50
Kawai K5000

These synths were so menu-heavy that I think they'd be far more usable in software format than they are in hardware format. Others?


Posted by Raphie on Oct-30-2011 22:35:

just bought FM8 for 60$, love it!


Posted by cryophonik on Oct-30-2011 22:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
just bought FM8 for 60$, love it!


NI never made a classic digital hardware synth. Please read the OP - I'm not talking about third-party synths that sorta emulate others. I'm talking about, for example, Yamaha releasing a DX-7 soft synth.


Posted by Beatflux on Oct-30-2011 23:58:

How about classic softsynths that you would like to see in an expensive 2000 dollar dongle:

Synth 1.


Posted by MSZ on Oct-31-2011 00:20:

roland sh101
sequential c pro one


Posted by cryophonik on Oct-31-2011 01:28:

quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
roland sh101
sequential c pro one


Those are anologue, not digital. Again, I'm asking about DIGITAL synths, not the same old boring analogue emulations. Why is this question so difficult for....fuck it, nevermind.


Posted by Mel David on Oct-31-2011 01:36:

Well I still have an old Roland XP-50 that I would like to sell one day, after I have imported all my old tunes into my DAW. So basically I want an VSTi that can read XP-50 sound banks and songs. Also I have created some pretty aggressive Ultrasonic-type techno leads on the XP-50 that so far I have not been able to create on software instruments.

The Novation Nova/Supernova would be good as a VSTi, but with better quality FX.


Posted by MSZ on Oct-31-2011 01:41:

sorry i misread the thread/


Posted by Energy_3 on Oct-31-2011 05:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Mel David
Well I still have an old Roland XP-50 that I would like to sell one day, after I have imported all my old tunes into my DAW. So basically I want an VSTi that can read XP-50 sound banks and songs. Also I have created some pretty aggressive Ultrasonic-type techno leads on the XP-50 that so far I have not been able to create on software instruments.

The Novation Nova/Supernova would be good as a VSTi, but with better quality FX.


yeah some of the novation range would be nice!


Posted by Raphie on Oct-31-2011 07:04:

The FM8 = the Yamaha DX7
It even reads it's original patches.


quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
NI never made a classic digital hardware synth. Please read the OP - I'm not talking about third-party synths that sorta emulate others. I'm talking about, for example, Yamaha releasing a DX-7 soft synth.


Posted by Teezdalien on Oct-31-2011 09:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
The FM8 = the Yamaha DX7
It even reads it's original patches.


So does Rhino.


Posted by tehlord on Oct-31-2011 10:56:

For me it's all Roland.


D50
JV1080
JP8080 (a proper one, not the Szabo one although that is tasty)

I would have said the M1 and Wavestation as well, but that's been done already


Posted by Lolo on Oct-31-2011 11:02:

Roland JD800 with the sound expansion from the JV series and a usb hardware controller without the keyboard.


Posted by Raphie on Oct-31-2011 13:39:

yes that would be nice as well
Virus Ti Native anyone?


Posted by madmuso on Nov-01-2011 01:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
yes that would be nice as well
Virus Ti Native anyone?


yes please! and just to balance things out after that, a casio psr295.
hehe


Posted by aquila on Nov-01-2011 12:12:

Korg M1...although I think that's been done already, in which case do the X3 next.


Posted by evo8 on Nov-01-2011 13:21:

JD800 or D50, although Omnisphere probably covers a lot of those sounds?


Posted by Simon_N on Nov-01-2011 16:07:

quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
roland sh101
sequential c pro one


Free Roland sh101 synth.

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/3119.html


Posted by cryophonik on Nov-01-2011 16:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
The FM8 = the Yamaha DX7


No it doesn't, nor was it made by Yamaha (i.e., the ORIGINAL company that made the DX7 - see the question in my post). If you've ever used, heard, or even read about the DX7, you'd know that FM8 is not the equivalent of the DX7 in terms of sound or features (the most obvious being that the DX7 didn't have a filter) - it is a modern FM synth developed by NI which, thanks to its similar 6-operator architecture and other coding, allows you to load DX7 patches. There are several synths that will load DX7 patches (e.g., Rhino, as mentioned, FM Heaven, Sytrus, Hexter), but none of these = the DX7 either and none of them sound like the original when they are loaded with DX7 patches.

Thanks to the few of you who actually understood the question. I'm not sure what's so confusing the to the rest of you, but the concept is simple: think of a classic DIGITAL hardware synth that you would like to see released in software format by the ORIGINAL company (i.e., not a 3rd-party emulation). Korg did this with many of their synths (e.g., the M1, Wavestation, etc.). What other synths/companies would you like to see do the same?


Posted by Richard Butler on Nov-01-2011 16:33:

Kawai K1 - that thing had a sound all it's own.

I second the call for Novation synths - I've only recently become aware of how good they sound.

Yamaha AN1X - I used to have one, the most fun synth to just jam on for hours.


Posted by Mel David on Nov-01-2011 17:01:

Never owned one but lusted for one:

Roland V-Synth GT


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-01-2011 17:18:

i honestly hate these types of synths. They never sound close and they forgo things that would be cool for authenticity which seems pointless considering the emulation is never close enough. If you do an emulation, you better make it have more of everything the original designer would of done had they been able to do it cheaply which is the reason they didn't. ARturia comes to mind.

i would be interested in a direct port of

virus ( they actually did this for powercore in like 2001 and it sounded the same as the virus B )
jp 8000
kprg ms2000
Waldorf Q
nord 2

the thing that sucks is that they would do it if piracy wasn't such an issue and since this stuff is aimed at EDM and hip hop, the main users of cracks, well yup, ain't ever going to happen.


Posted by cryophonik on Nov-01-2011 17:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
If you do an emulation, you better make it have more of everything the original designer would of done had they been able to do it cheaply which is the reason they didn't. ARturia comes to mind.


Exactly the reason I'm not asking about third-party emulations and/or emulations of analogue in the digital domain. The best results of porting a synth from one digital medium to another are going to come from the guys who developed it themselves.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-01-2011 17:39:

the sad part is you know they have the schematics that could be programmed with little effort. I mean the jp 8000 , they don't sell, they don't sell anything that tries to be it, yet that is one synth that A, all the dance [people would get , and B, hip hop people would get as they just rip dance off.

I understand nord and virus, even tho virus had a port as those are the lifeline of those companies. But roland ? Even nord, they sell way more pianos and electric keys type synths than real synths.

And if they charged a reasonable price ie 500 ish, who wouldn't.

And the people that use the hardware are just different folks. 70% of nord users are in rock bands. They play live.

The virus I suppose is a studio synth so I guess they would not want to let that code out but maybe UAD could start branching out with synths. What is the minimum latency of the UAD ?

256 samples for your soundcard + 128 - 256 for a plugin, you can play with 512 no problem.


Posted by tehlord on Nov-01-2011 19:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney

jp 8000
kprg ms2000
Waldorf Q
nord 2



Superwave do an MS2000 emulation and Disco DSP Discovery Pro is an emulation of the Nord Lead 2.

I loved my MS2000b, as mediocre as it really was it looked cool and let me be Optimus Prime.

Oh, and the Adam Szabo JP6K is a good approximation of the JP8000.


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