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Posted by Woony on Oct-31-2011 14:03:

Woony - The Caverns Part II: Going deeper [Deeeep Techno]


Going deeper into abyss

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01 Thomas K�ner - Untitled [Barooni]
02 Donato Dozzy - Time Out Of The Gap [Railyard Recordings]
03 Lerosa & Donato Dozzy - Gas Snake [Apnea]
04 Iori - Magnetic [Prologue]
05 Inward Content - Dust [Meanwhile]
06 Pfirter & Dadub - Universe (Edit Select Dub) [Stroboscopic Artefacts]
07 Cio D'or - Wirbelkraft [Prologue]
08 Sandwell District - Immolare (Function Version] [Sandwell District]
09 Voices From The Lake - Drop 4 [Prologue]
10 Giorgio Gigli - Memory Shadows [Zooloft]
11 Endless - sg8 [Electric Deluxe]
12 Dino Sabatini - Step 3 [Sonic Groove]
13 Dino Sabatini - Hyginus [Prologue]
14 Peter Van Hoesen & Donato Dozzy - Dock [Time To Express]
15 Samuli Kemppi - Metal Space [Komisch]
16 Lucy - Kalachakra (Version) [Prologue]
17 Monolake - Tangent I [Imbalance Computer Music]

As the days here are getting darker and colder, I have decided to do Part II of my Caverns series. This time with ultimate deep dubbyness, some dark italian drones and less dancefloor functionality. Listening when it's dark outside, on high volume and headphones recommended!


Posted by Adam420 on Oct-31-2011 15:48:

Looking nice, I'll check this one out fo sho


Posted by Sushipunk on Oct-31-2011 21:54:

In.


Posted by pozz on Nov-01-2011 03:38:

listened to this one cuz of the Koner track. probably the most directed set i heard from you, first 40min seemed really definite about rising out of the depths.

some technical criticism: dunno if you mixed this live or not, but your levels are off, every time a track enters it tends to jump in volume slightly. the tracks you chose don't need that kind of extra oomph, they got enough of a bass-driven groove to show themselves. the other thing is that your flow kind of wobbles when you introduce new tracks. not always, but enough to detract, and that's to do with mixing skill rather than selection -- cuz you nailed that, enough thumpers in here that kept me listening.


Posted by yonny on Nov-01-2011 11:39:

Nice to see you here again


Posted by wotyzoid on Nov-01-2011 16:30:

yes


Posted by Woony on Nov-01-2011 16:52:

quote:
Originally posted by pozz
listened to this one cuz of the Koner track. probably the most directed set i heard from you, first 40min seemed really definite about rising out of the depths.

some technical criticism: dunno if you mixed this live or not, but your levels are off, every time a track enters it tends to jump in volume slightly. the tracks you chose don't need that kind of extra oomph, they got enough of a bass-driven groove to show themselves. the other thing is that your flow kind of wobbles when you introduce new tracks. not always, but enough to detract, and that's to do with mixing skill rather than selection -- cuz you nailed that, enough thumpers in here that kept me listening.


Hey, thanks for the feedback. The thing with the levels is probably because for some reason it has been hard to get some decent volume on my headphones while mixing since I changed my setup, so it's hard to judge the actual levels of the tracks. I'll have to fix that.

Also could you elaborate what you mean by 'wobbly' flow?


Posted by yonny on Nov-01-2011 19:20:

I really enjoyed this one, it was totally what i expected from the title and art. Ill definitly listen to this many times


Posted by Sushipunk on Nov-02-2011 06:39:

Very nice


Posted by Woony on Nov-02-2011 21:56:

Thanks Yonny & Sushi


Posted by Lews on Nov-03-2011 00:32:

Fantastic. Will be keeping this one around for a while. Great stuff


Posted by pozz on Nov-03-2011 19:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Woonyxoxo
Hey, thanks for the feedback. The thing with the levels is probably because for some reason it has been hard to get some decent volume on my headphones while mixing since I changed my setup, so it's hard to judge the actual levels of the tracks. I'll have to fix that.

Also could you elaborate what you mean by 'wobbly' flow?


sure. the transitions from around 15-16min, 20-21min stick in my mind specifically. the incoming track comes in not quite fully matching the one playing, most because of leveling (coming in too quick, or too slow, or inconsistently during transitions). you tend to use filtering techniques really often to introduce new grooves by cutting lows or high, then bring in a drop. but before that drop, while the tracks are blending, the flow sometimes loses direction for a moment or two when the blend isn't as tight as it should be.

you should be more willing cut a track right in with minimal eqing or filtering, cuz you way you pick them they tend to line pretty nicely with each other. you can make it seem like a new percussive or rhythmic phrase was introduced and then -- boom! it becomes a new track. most of the time i could pick out your transitions without really listening all that hard because they tend to happen in the same manner each time.

and about mixing with headphones, two things can help you: (1) listening at either a very very low volume or a very high volume will let you hear problems with levels. if it doesn't sound right, or steady, then you know you have some mastering work to do. (2) listen to it on other systems, like your living room hi-fi, your tv, really shitty headphones, a car. these can help you locate problems. sometimes listening to it on a really nice system or a pair only, without comparison to other systems, will really muddy a mix. this advice only helps if you aren't mixing live - if you are, then you have to take some time to learn the way your headphones represent sound so that you can get all the leveling correct the first time around.


Posted by Woony on Nov-05-2011 15:18:

quote:
Originally posted by pozz
sure. the transitions from around 15-16min, 20-21min stick in my mind specifically. the incoming track comes in not quite fully matching the one playing, most because of leveling (coming in too quick, or too slow, or inconsistently during transitions). you tend to use filtering techniques really often to introduce new grooves by cutting lows or high, then bring in a drop. but before that drop, while the tracks are blending, the flow sometimes loses direction for a moment or two when the blend isn't as tight as it should be.

you should be more willing cut a track right in with minimal eqing or filtering, cuz you way you pick them they tend to line pretty nicely with each other. you can make it seem like a new percussive or rhythmic phrase was introduced and then -- boom! it becomes a new track. most of the time i could pick out your transitions without really listening all that hard because they tend to happen in the same manner each time.

and about mixing with headphones, two things can help you: (1) listening at either a very very low volume or a very high volume will let you hear problems with levels. if it doesn't sound right, or steady, then you know you have some mastering work to do. (2) listen to it on other systems, like your living room hi-fi, your tv, really shitty headphones, a car. these can help you locate problems. sometimes listening to it on a really nice system or a pair only, without comparison to other systems, will really muddy a mix. this advice only helps if you aren't mixing live - if you are, then you have to take some time to learn the way your headphones represent sound so that you can get all the leveling correct the first time around.


Thanks for indepth feedback. You're right I almost always heavily EQ, I'll try to make some mixes with minimal EQing and see how that goes. I usually don't use a lot of filter but I felt like it was appropiate for such a bassy mix.

Also thanks to Lews for listening


Posted by Woony on Nov-07-2011 16:45:

bumping


Posted by Woony on Nov-09-2011 16:08:

One last bump


Posted by Az on Feb-20-2012 21:36:

re-up?


Posted by Woony on Feb-20-2012 22:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Az
re-up?


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