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In 2010, a nutrition professor lost 27 pounds by eating Twinkies and junk food
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| (CNN) -- Twinkies. Nutty bars. Powdered donuts. For 10 weeks, Mark Haub, a professor of human nutrition at Kansas State University, ate one of these sugary cakelets every three hours, instead of meals. To add variety in his steady stream of Hostess and Little Debbie snacks, Haub munched on Doritos chips, sugary cereals and Oreos, too. His premise: That in weight loss, pure calorie counting is what matters most -- not the nutritional value of the food. The premise held up: On his "convenience store diet," he shed 27 pounds in two months. For a class project, Haub limited himself to less than 1,800 calories a day. A man of Haub's pre-dieting size usually consumes about 2,600 calories daily. So he followed a basic principle of weight loss: He consumed significantly fewer calories than he burned. His body mass index went from 28.8, considered overweight, to 24.9, which is normal. He now weighs 174 pounds. But you might expect other indicators of health would have suffered. Not so. Haub's "bad" cholesterol, or LDL, dropped 20 percent and his "good" cholesterol, or HDL, increased by 20 percent. He reduced the level of triglycerides, which are a form of fat, by 39 percent. "That's where the head scratching comes," Haub said. "What does that mean? Does that mean I'm healthier? Or does it mean how we define health from a biology standpoint, that we're missing something?" Despite his temporary success, Haub does not recommend replicating his snack-centric diet. "I'm not geared to say this is a good thing to do," he said. "I'm stuck in the middle. I guess that's the frustrating part. I can't give a concrete answer. There's not enough information to do that." Two-thirds of his total intake came from junk food. He also took a multivitamin pill and drank a protein shake daily. And he ate vegetables, typically a can of green beans or three to four celery stalks. Families who live in food deserts have limited access to fresh fruits and vegetables, so they often rely on the kind of food Haub was eating. "These foods are consumed by lots of people," he said. "It may be an issue of portion size and moderation rather than total removal. I just think it's unrealistic to expect people to totally drop these foods for vegetables and fruits. It may be healthy, but not realistic." Haub's body fat dropped from 33.4 to 24.9 percent. This posed the question: What matters more for weight loss, the quantity or quality of calories? His success is probably a result of caloric reduction, said Dawn Jackson Blatner, a dietitian in Chicago, Illinois. "It's a great reminder for weight loss that calories count," she said. "Is that the bottom line to being healthy? That's another story." Blatner, a spokeswoman for the American Dietetic Association, said she's not surprised to hear Haub's health markers improved even when he loaded up on processed snack cakes. Being overweight is the central problem that leads to complications like high blood pressure, diabetes and high cholesterol, she said. How well are you managing your diabetes? "When you lose weight, regardless of how you're doing it -- even if it's with packaged foods, generally you will see these markers improve when weight loss has improved," she said. Before jumping on the Ding Dong bandwagon, Blatner warned of health concerns. "There are things we can't measure," said Blatner, questioning how the lack of fruits and vegetables could affect long-term health. "How much does that affect the risk for cancer? We can't measure how diet changes affect our health." On August 25, Haub, 41, started his cake diet focusing on portion control. "I'm eating to the point of need and pushing the plate or wrapper away," he said. He intended the trial to last a month as a teaching tool for his class. As he lost weight, Haub continued the diet until he reached a normal body mass index. Before his Twinkie diet, he tried to eat a healthy diet that included whole grains, dietary fiber, berries and bananas, vegetables and occasional treats like pizza. "There seems to be a disconnect between eating healthy and being healthy," Haub said. "It may not be the same. I was eating healthier, but I wasn't healthy. I was eating too much." He maintained the same level of moderate physical activity as before going on the diet. (Haub does not have any ties to the snack cake companies.) To avoid setting a bad example for his kids, Haub ate vegetables in front of his family. Away from the dinner table, he usually unwrapped his meals. Study: U.S. obesity rate will hit 42 percent Haub monitored his body composition, blood pressure, cholesterol and glucose, and updated his progress on his Facebook page, Professor Haub's diet experiment. To curb calories, he avoided meat, whole grains and fruits. Once he started adding meat into the diet four weeks ago, his cholesterol level increased. Haub plans to add about 300 calories to his daily intake now that he's done with the diet. But he's not ditching snack cakes altogether. Despite his weight loss, Haub feels ambivalence. "I wish I could say the outcomes are unhealthy. I wish I could say it's healthy. I'm not confident enough in doing that. That frustrates a lot of people. One side says it's irresponsible. It is unhealthy, but the data doesn't say that." |
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| Haub's sample day Espresso, Double: 6 calories; 0 grams of fat Hostess Twinkies Golden Sponge Cake: 150 calories; 5 grams of fat Centrum Advanced Formula From A To Zinc: 0 calories; 0 grams of fat Little Debbie Star Crunch: 150 calories; 6 grams of fat Hostess Twinkies Golden Sponge Cake: 150 calories; 5 grams of fat Diet Mountain Dew: 0 calories; 0 grams of fat Doritos Cool Ranch: 75 calories; 4 grams of fat Kellogg's Corn Pops: 220 calories; 0 grams of fat whole milk: 150 calories; 8 grams of fat baby carrots: 18 calories; 0 grams of fat Duncan Hines Family Style Brownie Chewy Fudge: 270 calories; 14 grams of fat Little Debbie Zebra Cake: 160 calories; 8 grams of fat Muscle Milk Protein Shake: 240 calories; 9 grams of fat Totals: 1,589 calories and 59 grams of fat |
Saw this a while ago. Goes to show that calories in vs. calories out really is the trick. And this is probably a lot easier to do with the kind of processed foods that come in neat little standardized packages, too.
Well, what worked for me wasn't calorie counting, it was a complete nutrition overhaul. Instead of eating meat and cheese, I ate veggie/fruits and whole grains, and cut out salt/sugar/oils. I wonder what a diet like this would do in a long term setting, like 5 years or so.
Did he exercise at all during that time period? Seems like if he was eating 1,600 calories a day he wouldn't drop that much weight so fast if he wasn't exercising regularly.
i couldn't eat like that if you paid me. so gross.
Not that thats any suprise though. portion control is definitely a factor here as its much easier to say no to a second helping of brocoli than a second delicious cheeseburger.
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| Originally posted by srussell0018 Did he exercise at all during that time period? Seems like if he was eating 1,600 calories a day he wouldn't drop that much weight so fast if he wasn't exercising regularly. |
broccoli is delicious.
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| Originally posted by zyklon-jay broccoli is delicious. |
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| Originally posted by srussell0018 Did he exercise at all during that time period? Seems like if he was eating 1,600 calories a day he wouldn't drop that much weight so fast if he wasn't exercising regularly. |
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| Originally posted by Vector A Calorie requirement for a decent sized guy is like 2500. 900 calorie deficit will make you lose a lot of weight regardless of how much you're exercising. |
"This message has been paid for by Hostess Brainds, Inc." 
Seriously, I can't imagine how much they pay people to conduct & publish research like this.
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| Originally posted by srussell0018 That's not the requirement. That's what fatamerica says is an acceptable caloric intake for a day for people who eat too much as it is. Most people are fine with under 2000 calories per day. It's the same thing with salt. On nutrition labels it recommends about 2,400mg, when in reality you should be consuming much less than 2,000. The standard nutrition facts you see labeled on foods aren't accurate, and I believe many nutritionists are starting to realize it. Nobody needs 2500 calories a day unless they're obese. A ~200 pound man does not need 2500 calories in a day, and shouldn't lose 27 pounds in 10 weeks just by eating a normal amount of calories. He probably weighted over 200lbs because he consumed that many calories, he didn't consume that many calories because he was over 200lbs. |
Oh, and 2500 calories is not so close to normal American consumption, which I've seen estimated from 3000 to 4000. If American men ate just 2500 calories, most of them would probably maintain weight rather than gaining.
That's the equation for the caloric requirement to maintain a certain weight, so sure, if you want to remain overweight, I guess that does require overeating. Go figure.
Caloric requirement to live at a healthy weight and caloric requirement to continue being overweight are pretty different.
The word "requirement" in that equation is very misleading.
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| Originally posted by Blake "This message has been paid for by Hostess Brainds, Inc." Seriously, I can't imagine how much they pay people to conduct & publish research like this. |
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| (Haub does not have any ties to the snack cake companies.) |
Let's write out some specifics, then.
Say 6'0" man, 170 lbs, 25 years old, exercising three times per week. Now plug in the values...
= ( 6.23 x 170 ) + ( 12.7 x 72 ) � ( 6.76 x 25 ) = 1804.5
1804.5 * 1.375 = 2481.1875 calories
Not some fatty, just a six foot guy who weighs 170 and works out a bit.
Fatty
Idk, I don't really count calories, but I'm 5'10, 180 and I exercise 5 days per week, but I don't think I consume anywhere close to 2,500 calories per day.
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| Originally posted by srussell0018 Fatty Idk, I don't really count calories, but I'm 5'10, 180 and I exercise 5 days per week, but I don't think I consume anywhere close to 2,500 calories per day. |
I'm curious now. That formula says I should be consuming 2,900 calories per day, which seems like way more than I do.
He went from fat to skinny-fat. Amazing!
Loosing wait has nothing tu do whit "counting calories" or from remouving curtain food groops from yore dighet, and has evrythign whit eating normal fucking portions and getting off yore fat asess. Simpel ass tath. Mite fill hungary first coppel-o daze, but the stoumack shrinsk fast wehn you do'nt feel it up like a pig all the time.
Zip, I remember making this exact point to you a while ago when you were boasting about your vegan diet, and you started arguing with me. I've yet to hear anyone explain to me how a living organism can maintain a calorific deficit for any length of time without losing bodymass. Endless overweight people have suggested to me that their bodies somehow defy this basic equation.
As I've said before, I've lost 18lbs in about three months consuming absolute junk food. It's not guaranteed to be good weight you're losing, and it's certainly not healthy in a larger perspective, but it clearly works.
This whole calorie and weight loss thing is a mystery to me.
I've been running on the treadmill everyday for about 3 weeks now. My workout is pretty standard 30 minutes on the treadmill, and according to the counter it equals 5K and burns about 300 calories.
After a few weeks of this I've lost a significant amount of weight but is that to say that if I didn't work out at all and just ate 300 less calories a day I would be in the same shape? I find that hard to believe.
Working out your cardiovascular system boosts your metabolism, so you burn more calories even at rest. Same thing with building muscle. So when you work out, not only are you burning the calories from exercising, but also boosting the rate at which you burn calories even when you're not exercising.
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