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Posted by tehlord on Nov-11-2011 13:51:

Running sample libraries from an external USB HDD

Yay or nay?

I'm about to pull the trigger on 100GB worth of Kirk Hunter samples and don't really want to load that up on my already 50% full sample drive.

I also don't want to be arse raped with the current HDD prices so I was going to buy a cheap 320GB external for now and run it off that for a couple of months until prices stabilise.

I have Kontakt set up so that it utilises DFD as much as possible so I was wondering if the USB drive would bottleneck a little, although saying that most of any given project will still stream samples from the internal sample drive.

This is on a PC btw.

Cheers


Posted by meriter on Nov-11-2011 14:02:

I might be wrong but running audio from an external, unless it's like eSata is generally a bad idea.


Posted by stewart.m on Nov-11-2011 14:54:

i run all my sampels from my 500g seagate usb without any issues it will b a bit slower then a sata or ssd because of the conversion rate. or if you wanted to you can just buy a cheap internal ide and put on a sata converter for a few bucks.


Posted by tehlord on Nov-11-2011 22:04:

I think i'll probably give it a go as I really need something as a backup drive anyway.

I'm pretty sure there will be a fair amount of buffering to RAM with Kontakt's DFD option so I think just one library on there for now should work OK.


Posted by tehlord on Nov-11-2011 22:04:

I think i'll probably give it a go as I really need something as a backup drive anyway.

I'm pretty sure there will be a fair amount of buffering to RAM with Kontakt's DFD option so I think just one library on there for now should work OK.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-11-2011 22:13:

Re: Running sample libraries from an external USB HDD

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Yay or nay?

I'm about to pull the trigger on 100GB worth of Kirk Hunter samples and don't really want to load that up on my already 50% full sample drive.

I also don't want to be arse raped with the current HDD prices so I was going to buy a cheap 320GB external for now and run it off that for a couple of months until prices stabilise.

I have Kontakt set up so that it utilises DFD as much as possible so I was wondering if the USB drive would bottleneck a little, although saying that most of any given project will still stream samples from the internal sample drive.

This is on a PC btw.

Cheers


you will want to actually make kontakt not use dfd as much as possible if you are using an external drive. You will have to compensate with ram. But if you have a pc, getting 16 gigs is pretty cheap these days.

dfd = direct from disk

high dfd = less ram , more disk streaming
low dfd = more ram, less disk streaming
sampler mode = all ram.

I run the hidden settting

pimp mode. raid SSD in a mac pro , maybe i will just double it to ram cause you have so much it doesn't fucking matter and your girlfriend is hot.

this option is only in 5 tho.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-11-2011 22:25:

how much would it cost to mail a hard drive to london ?

I must have like 8 1 tb drives in a closet.


Posted by tehlord on Nov-11-2011 23:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
you will want to actually make kontakt not use dfd as much as possible if you are using an external drive. You will have to compensate with ram. But if you have a pc, getting 16 gigs is pretty cheap these days.

dfd = direct from disk

high dfd = less ram , more disk streaming
low dfd = more ram, less disk streaming
sampler mode = all ram.

I run the hidden settting

pimp mode. raid SSD in a mac pro , maybe i will just double it to ram cause you have so much it doesn't fucking matter and your girlfriend is hot.

this option is only in 5 tho.


I'm still on K4, although more RAM and less DFD makes perfect sense.

I'm using 8GB at the moment, but I've been doing a bit of orchestral lately and that's already not enough really, 16GB is a good call so i'll probably do that anyway.


quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
how much would it cost to mail a hard drive to london ?

I must have like 8 1 tb drives in a closet.


No idea old fruit, I can't imagine it being a lot less than 50 bucks though.


Posted by TranceLover007 on Nov-11-2011 23:29:

I can smell some new and really warm relationship be formed right here right now lol lol lol - I'm jealous

Cheers


Posted by tehlord on Nov-11-2011 23:31:

Might as well. He's always inside my head anyway.



Sigh


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-11-2011 23:31:

he is actually my nemesis. But I respect an opponent that can put me in place over the usual dick juggling knobhead. If anyone ever got close enough to make me hit my girlfriend , it would be him.


Posted by tehlord on Nov-11-2011 23:36:


Posted by TranceLover007 on Nov-11-2011 23:36:

Oh shit, no way, I got to get a beer for you guys today, or maybe two, three, ....... whatever I can handle today lol lol lol, sweet Lord!!!!


Posted by tehlord on Nov-11-2011 23:39:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
Oh shit, no way, I got to get a beer for you guys today, or maybe two, three, ....... whatever I can handle today lol lol lol, sweet Lord!!!!


Noooooo, i'm easy when i'm pissed


Posted by TranceLover007 on Nov-11-2011 23:44:

That was very easy job for him


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-11-2011 23:46:

that happened to me last year. Years of getting walloped by my dad made me pretty good at dodging punches but I was drunk and while he was puffing his chest ready to fight, i was thinking about witty things I can say to make fun of him. The worst par is that my shirt was ruined by the grime on the floor. I didn't press charges. The manager asked why, I told him I think i earned that one. wasn't completely sure but at some point , i think I said something that warrants a punch. And people say i'm not a reasonable guy.


Posted by tehlord on Nov-11-2011 23:48:

I meant it when I said I missed you.


Posted by TranceLover007 on Nov-11-2011 23:51:

I hope you talking about me


Posted by tehlord on Nov-11-2011 23:54:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
I hope you talking about me



Dammit, I hate love triangles!


Posted by TranceLover007 on Nov-11-2011 23:59:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Dammit, I hate love triangles!


Lol, yeah, I always knew that he is very interesting (intellectually) person, but to that extension????



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