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Posted by Wrangler on Dec-01-2011 04:13:

Question Trance in California - is it popular?

Hi,

I have never partied in California so I was wondering where Trance is most popular? SF? LA?

(21+ that is...)

Thanks!


Posted by jonmitz on Dec-01-2011 04:33:

1. LA - circus disco
2. SF - Ruby Skye (not so much right now, tends to go in trance -> house -> trance cycles)
3. SD - Spin (?)


Posted by turpentine on Dec-01-2011 04:40:

probably the most popular in LA. SF is a bit more underground (in my opinion), alot of techno, tech house, etc.


Posted by Quazar on Dec-01-2011 04:54:

Trance is probably more popular in LA than in any other US city.

Circus in Hollywood has trance almost every Saturday.

Insomniac has some Friday night trance events coming up at The Exchange downtown.

Once or twice every couple of months, Avalon in Hollywood will have a major trance DJ on a Saturday night.

It's rare to have a weekend without a trance DJ somewhere in town.


Posted by bigperf on Dec-01-2011 05:12:

Re: Trance in California - is it popular?

quote:
Originally posted by Wrangler
Hi,

I have never partied in California so I was wondering where Trance is most popular? SF? LA?

(21+ that is...)

Thanks!


not really popular anywhere.

the big name dj's will draw people.
Fact filled Example:

above and beyond tends to sell out all their events and bring out the scalpers.
SF charges an arm and a leg for their shows.(ruby skye)
LA charges an arm and a leg for their shows.(palladium)
SD charges peanuts and crackers for their shows. (fluxx)

which i find odd since fluxx is the smallest of the 3 venues. sure they usually play SD on a thursday, but $10 as opposed to $35 to start is quite a deal. Plus the girls who go to shows in SD are way hotter than the ones in LA and SF.


Posted by bigperf on Dec-01-2011 05:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Quazar


Circus in Hollywood has trance almost every Saturday.



does that mean its popular? i've heard of many a night where the crowd is quite small(especially for such a large venue)
also its mostly smaller names playing at this venue, i mean that "quadruple headliner" ???

i know im not a trancehead, but i would never imagine any of them on the top bill of any of the california massives that insomniac or go ventures put together.(or even on the bottom of the bill!)
when you think trance you got to put these guys at the top of the list
ferry corsten
avb
atb
pvd
tiesto
markus schulz
christopher lawrence
and sure a couple of these guys don't play "trance" anymore(markus, atb, tijs etc).


Posted by Quazar on Dec-01-2011 05:50:

quote:
Originally posted by bigperf
does that mean its popular? i've heard of many a night where the crowd is quite small(especially for such a large venue)

Yes, it means it's popular. If you can have a decent sized crowd show up for a DJ who is by no means a "superstar", with minimal promotion, then it means the genre is doing well here.

In Atlanta a couple of years ago, Cosmic Gate drew a crowd much smaller than the usual Circus crowd. So small, in fact, that the club only kept one bar open. Only Armin, PVD, Tiesto, Ferry, BT, and the like were able to draw a crowd there. Last year I heard from friends that Marco V got pushed from the side room to a low-volume outside patio to make more room for the main room crowd... there to see just another local hip-hop DJ.

LA is spoiled when it comes to EDM in general. When you compare trance to house, it makes it seem like trance isn't popular, but it is. Just not as popular as house. And in the US, that has always been the case and is probably always going to be the case.


Posted by LAdazeNYnights on Dec-01-2011 05:56:

Forget about trance yo.
I'm trying to hear some eurodance.
Where can I hear something DOPE played out...like La Bouche ????

riddle me that


Posted by Quazar on Dec-01-2011 05:59:

quote:
Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights
Forget about trance yo.
I'm trying to hear some eurodance.
Where can I hear something DOPE played out...like La Bouche ????

riddle me that

I know you're joking, but I would love it if a club around here had a 90s eurodance night. I mean 80s nights were all the rage 5-6 years ago, the 90s have to come back at some point!


Posted by LAdazeNYnights on Dec-01-2011 06:01:

You know...I was only half-joking.

lol


Posted by Pookie on Dec-01-2011 06:05:

Trance is quite popular in southern california. You get a lot of big name DJs coming to LA, OC, and SD.


Posted by DJ RANN on Dec-01-2011 06:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Quazar
Yes, it means it's popular. If you can have a decent sized crowd show up for a DJ who is by no means a "superstar", with minimal promotion, then it means the genre is doing well here.

In Atlanta a couple of years ago, Cosmic Gate drew a crowd much smaller than the usual Circus crowd. So small, in fact, that the club only kept one bar open. Only Armin, PVD, Tiesto, Ferry, BT, and the like were able to draw a crowd there. Last year I heard from friends that Marco V got pushed from the side room to a low-volume outside patio to make more room for the main room crowd... there to see just another local hip-hop DJ.

LA is spoiled when it comes to EDM in general. When you compare trance to house, it makes it seem like trance isn't popular, but it is. Just not as popular as house. And in the US, that has always been the case and is probably always going to be the case.


True that. The few times I've been to Circus, it has been quite rammed, and no when a superstar was playing, just a fairly well known producer or mid fame DJ.

When AVB, Pvd or such like are on the flyer, it's noob night and any club will be packed mainly with people who aren't really even that in to trance itself.

house is everywhere and has really killed hiphop as the mainstay of most clubs and bars.


Posted by in2muzikk on Dec-01-2011 08:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Quazar
Trance is probably more popular in LA than in any other US city.

Circus in Hollywood has trance almost every Saturday.

Insomniac has some Friday night trance events coming up at The Exchange downtown.

Once or twice every couple of months, Avalon in Hollywood will have a major trance DJ on a Saturday night.

It's rare to have a weekend without a trance DJ somewhere in town.


Agreed. Also, the crowd in LA really pays attention to the DJ's. When Mat Zo closed at Circus for the first time, the place was packed (and I mean wall to wall packed, big room open) all the way up until his set ended at 3:30am.

I also agree that it can be a little hit or miss though, sometimes a Trance DJ that you know really well (but isn't in the Top 20) comes by and the crowd is small but the music is big. When Genix came to Circus the first time, he blew everybody away who was there. Most everyone else told me "I wish I had gone that night, but I hadn't heard of him."

Yeah, so even DJ's who have regular residencies in the UK and draw massive crowds at, well, massives may not pack the floor here in LA...but sometimes they do. I'm expecting a huge turnout for the Trance Energy White Party at Circus, the lineup is just right for me. Plus, it really throws a finger at Energy: The Network, if you know what I mean!

Now, look for more posts that say how much better House music is, that's just the way this place works. Kind of like the Dems and Republicans, we can disagree all the time but nothing ever really comes of it...


Posted by alan on Dec-01-2011 09:12:

I like trance, house, techno.

to answer this question, instead of saying who or what event is better, lets just look at the number of events in clubs.

Ranking
1) Dubstep / Commercial House / Mashup / Electro - now played on weekends at most clubs in Hollywood. The music you hear are usually remixes and mashups of Top 100 ITunes and Billboard Tracks with a lot of vocals
2) House - At an given night, Monday to Sunday, there is at least one House night. On weekends, there are at least 5 legit nights just in Hollywood area on a Friday and 5 on a Saturday. For example, on Fridays, there is nightshift, steady, vanguard, the afterhours druggie crowd, woogie nights and even INCOGNITO on the occasion we go more tech house. That doesnt even count the undergrounds like Strange Delights, etc.
3) Trance - there is Sat at Circus as far as I know
4) Techno - other than Droid and INCOGNITO, I think this is the most niche of genres.

Having said that, IMO, not because of the genre, but because of their brand names and since they were the original Superstar DJs who mostly plays trance and who the mass market knows, its trance that rules. I mean even Kaskade or Richie Hawtin, cant compare to the popularity of Tiesto, Oakenfold, AvB, Ferry Corsten in my opinion.

of course, i may not know some events happening out there, this is just based on my personal experience and opinion


Posted by jonmitz on Dec-01-2011 19:05:

quote:
Originally posted by in2muzikk
Agreed. Also, the crowd in LA really pays attention to the DJ's. When Mat Zo closed at Circus for the first time, the place was packed (and I mean wall to wall packed, big room open) all the way up until his set ended at 3:30am.

I also agree that it can be a little hit or miss though, sometimes a Trance DJ that you know really well (but isn't in the Top 20) comes by and the crowd is small but the music is big. When Genix came to Circus the first time, he blew everybody away who was there. Most everyone else told me "I wish I had gone that night, but I hadn't heard of him."

Yeah, so even DJ's who have regular residencies in the UK and draw massive crowds at, well, massives may not pack the floor here in LA...but sometimes they do. I'm expecting a huge turnout for the Trance Energy White Party at Circus, the lineup is just right for me. Plus, it really throws a finger at Energy: The Network, if you know what I mean!

Now, look for more posts that say how much better House music is, that's just the way this place works. Kind of like the Dems and Republicans, we can disagree all the time but nothing ever really comes of it...


i'm so god damn jelly of you guys in LA. we never get any of the good trance

e: we did get christopher lawrence a couple months back though


Posted by svardineni on Dec-03-2011 00:22:

Re: Re: Trance in California - is it popular?

quote:
Originally posted by bigperf
not really popular anywhere.

the big name dj's will draw people.
Fact filled Example:

above and beyond tends to sell out all their events and bring out the scalpers.
SF charges an arm and a leg for their shows.(ruby skye)
LA charges an arm and a leg for their shows.(palladium)
SD charges peanuts and crackers for their shows. (fluxx)

which i find odd since fluxx is the smallest of the 3 venues. sure they usually play SD on a thursday, but $10 as opposed to $35 to start is quite a deal. Plus the girls who go to shows in SD are way hotter than the ones in LA and SF.


You forgot to mention that Ruby skye charges an arm and a leg for shows with almost no production whatsoever


Posted by bigperf on Dec-03-2011 00:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Pookie
Trance is quite popular in southern california. You get a lot of big name DJs coming to LA, OC, and SD.


would that make HOUSE Prom king??? since you get waayyyy more big name house djs coming to la, oc and sd?


Posted by in2muzikk on Dec-04-2011 01:17:

quote:
Originally posted by in2muzikk Now, look for more posts that say how much better House music is, that's just the way this place works. Kind of like the Dems and Republicans, we can disagree all the time but nothing ever really comes of it...



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