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Jemuel Pavlic - Neon City [Trance]

Just updated this first post with my final version. Give it a listen, let me know what you think!

Jemuel Pavlic - Neon City (Original Mix) by Jemmy91

Hopefully this will be the final version.

Could I please get some feedback on this?

Just finishing up some school ish, and then I will give it a proper listen and some feedback

Very interesting concept, musically speaking but would love to have this bass line push more up to the front and still could add some plucks or FX with different variations of sound to make this production even more interesting/catchy ---> my $0.02 before final mastering/release, which this track need it.

Cheers,

Darek

Re: Jemuel Pavlic - Neon City [Trance]

It has a sense of running though the night about it, a decent compelling energy.

You have the right ideas, so it's really the case of mixing it well, which is always bloody hard so don't be put off.

My sincere advice, maybe not what you want to hear, is to leave this one alone for a month and not listen to it even once.

Then make a date to come back to it with fresh ears and write down everything you think needs fixing by listen ing to it a couple of times.

It's complex sonically so thats why I suggest this.

In the meantime have fun. There's a lot going on in the mid range which is fighting one another some.

Cheers for the listen

Thanks for the feedback. This is a bit of an older version and I have added a little bit to it and worked on the mastering quite a bit more. I updated the original post with the newest version.

I'll take your advice too, Richard, and leave it be for a while. I keep coming back to it and it's been driving me nuts :P I guess it's finally time to work on some new ideas for a bit.

Thanks for listening.

Re: Re: Jemuel Pavlic - Neon City [Trance]

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Originally posted by Richard Butler My sincere advice, maybe not what you want to hear, is to leave this one alone for a month and not listen to it even once. In the meantime have fun. There's a lot going on in the mid range which is fighting one another some. Cheers for the listen

This.

I would even suggest not doing anything with music for a day or two, immerse yourself in something else, go to the gym, go out, study. Gotta take a break from the screen once in a while, it will do you good.

The track is nicely put together, but there is a struggle in the mid freq range. Id take some of the sounds that make up that range and solo all of them together, maybe play with the volumes and the frequencies of each of them until you feel them all have more room to breathe. Don't be afraid to turn the volume down!

Hey there,

I'm with both Darek and Richard on this one.

Also your kick lacks clear definition, it's there in the background like some sort of rumbling afterthough.

What I would look to do with this track is to bring the kick forward, make the bass push through a little more and then ensure that the high hat composition has more drive to it.

You need to sort out the wall of sound that you have in the mid range, but be careful as I kind of get what you were experiencing when you were writing this, the wall of sound cna give a false impression of a track having more percieved energy, then when you roll back on some stuf it can sound like it's lacking in your ears.

What Richard said about leaving it for a month is solid advice, you are too intimate with the track at the moment and you need some separation. In times like this I sometimes find that when I take a step back I think blech wtf was I thinking.

I think the balance in the mix still needs work. Pull down all the faders end then start with the kick until it hits around -8 db, then start bringing in the bass, clap, percussion and then working into acompanying basslines, stabs, pads and then your lead. Anytime you loose the initial elements in the track you have over done it.
Given the over all quality of the track you probably know this already, but it never hurts to reinforce solid principles.

Over all the track is good, it could probably get signed... but would a major take it?... I'm not sure, not strong enough in my opinion, but would still like to hear this when you have sorted out the freqs.

Thanks for sharing and keep up the excellent work.

Cheers
Nem

You guys are awesome, thanks for all the advice. I'll come back to this track later and get it all sorted. Cheers!

When doing the mix down I usually make sure that I have no compression/limiting or EQ on the master output so that you get a clear idea of the source material.

cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 When doing the mix down I usually make sure that I have no compression/limiting or EQ on the master output so that you get a clear idea of the source material. cheers Nem

Well said Nem.



Darek

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 When doing the mix down I usually make sure that I have no compression/limiting or EQ on the master output so that you get a clear idea of the source material. cheers Nem

Usually I complete overhaul the mix 3 or 4 times before I'm satisfied enough to do any mastering, but I tweaked a few instruments, including EQs, and didn't readjust the mix because I think I was too lazy to fix the volume modulations. And then I forgot to do it later.

I hate to beat a dead horse here, but I came back to this track and I think I properly mastered it this time, plus I completely redid the entire intro and added a few things.

I think there may be a tiny bit of quality loss over Soundcloud, the track doesn't quite pop out as much as it does in the original file. In any case, I'd like feedback on the end result. Comments, and especially constructive criticism! Thanks

Heya,

This isn't flogging a dead horse at all... actually, it makes good sense to get input on your track.

Regretably I think the mix down is in need of some serious work at the moment, it's a wash of highs and the levels are all over the place.
The white noise is waaaay too harsh.

I can tell that this will be an awesome track, but the mix down is so far from perfect.

By the way, what do you use to produce and would you object to sending me all the parts without EQ and I could have a go at seeing what I can come up with?
Admitedly there are those out there that could do this better than me, but I would be willing to give this a shot.

Let me know your thoughts

Cheers
Nem

I use Reason 6 and do all of my mixing/mastering in-house. I can bounce the channels and send them as separate .wav files if you would truly be interested in helping me with it.

Hi there,

Yes, I would be very interested in looking at this, but just be sure to remove all the EQ from the channel wav files.
Please try to avoid channels with more than one sound on it, as this will make the process harder to get clean.

Send me a PM when you have this and I will tell you where to send it.

Cheers
Nem

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