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Posted by Sedna on Dec-04-2011 16:32:

NYTA Talent Booking / Suggestions

Someone get John 00 Fleming here. He's pretty much the best name in trance at the moment, NYC needs his ass. Preferably B2B with Chris Lawrence. Until 8 am.


Posted by EliPsE on Dec-04-2011 21:43:

The sheep don't like that kind of trance. I've seen him quite a few times over the years and the turnout was never that great, which is a shame. It didn't bother me because he always throws it down.


Posted by Sedna on Dec-04-2011 22:15:

quote:
Originally posted by EliPsE
The sheep don't like that kind of trance. I've seen him quite a few times over the years and the turnout was never that great, which is a shame. It didn't bother me because he always throws it down.


I feel like NYC has enough heads that are into the good trance, and now-a-days I think if he was booked with CL we could get a pretty solid turnout.

Mad Not Mad, I think, could really pull a show like this off. John 00 Fleming deserves an epic party. Medium sized dark room with an awesome custom light show... I want it so bad!


Posted by Freeza on Dec-04-2011 23:41:

Monkey Dancer 2

The last time I saw him in NYC it was at Love, near Halloween. Forget what year that was, anyone remember? Has he even been in NYC since then?!


Posted by Chaska on Dec-04-2011 23:43:

Re: A request to promoters

quote:
Originally posted by Sedna
Someone get John 00 Fleming here. He's pretty much the best name in trance at the moment, NYC needs his ass. Preferably B2B with Chris Lawrence. Until 8 am.


Doubt it will happen. CL is coming soon too, I think.


Posted by AY STAR on Dec-05-2011 00:24:

def a great idea, BUT the turnout would be poor
his sound is def not for everyone
i have a set of him from aug and the first half is amazing
straight up dark and deep trance... once he gets into his psy trance stuff i can only listen to soooo much of it tbh

overall tho i would still support the night, he def keeps it real and i respect him and his views

i do remember tho back at arc in 2003 he played one of the best sets ever, that room was perfect for him and the vibe was threw the roof holy fuck i wish i could go back to that night ha ha ha


Posted by Zack Roth on Dec-05-2011 01:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Freeza
The last time I saw him in NYC it was at Love, near Halloween. Forget what year that was, anyone remember? Has he even been in NYC since then?!


Yup, this one...

He played a great set that night, but unfortunately that party wasn't that well-attended if I remember correctly. J00F's darker trance sound is just not as widely appealing as other trance djs. It's a shame, because he's awesome. Would love to see him get booked in NYC again.



Posted by DOOMBOT on Dec-05-2011 02:51:

Would love to catch a live set of his in NYC!


Posted by DJ Eco on Dec-05-2011 03:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Sedna
I feel like NYC has enough heads that are into the good trance, and now-a-days I think if he was booked with CL we could get a pretty solid turnout.



You're giving NYC too much credit. The "trance family" in the tri-state area is strong, but musically, I'm starting to really question what that means and if that's a negative thing.

In a just world, guys like Activa, J00F, M.I.K.E., Jon O'Bir, etc., could be able to come to New York and play to at least a packed out 500-person room, but unfortunately not even the 200 person rooms fill up for these guys. These guys get more turnout playing in places like Minneapolis and Texas.

Kids in New York aren't going out once a week like they used to. They stay home for 1-2 months to save money for the next $80 Deadmau5 concert, or the Identity Tour, or don't go out for 4-5 months because they're saving for $400 Electric Zoo. There's no culture of seeing some obscure different DJ this Friday for $10 before midnight, and then going out next week to see another interesting DJ for $10 before midnight. It's a "go big or stay home" mentality from the promoters.

Go figure, my first gig in a Manhattan club in like 2 years is a 1 hour opening set alongside a lineup of Aly & Fila, Myon & Shane 54, and Sied Van Riel. Ten years ago, one of these guys would have been the sole headliner, I might have had my own biweekly residency. But the culture's different, and the implications it has on the way music is played and made are very far-reaching.


Posted by Sedna on Dec-05-2011 03:29:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
You're giving NYC too much credit. The "trance family" in the tri-state area is strong, but musically, I'm starting to really question what that means and if that's a negative thing.

In a just world, guys like Activa, J00F, M.I.K.E., Jon O'Bir, etc., could be able to come to New York and play to at least a packed out 500-person room, but unfortunately not even the 200 person rooms fill up for these guys. These guys get more turnout playing in places like Minneapolis and Texas.

Kids in New York aren't going out once a week like they used to. They stay home for 1-2 months to save money for the next $80 Deadmau5 concert, or the Identity Tour, or don't go out for 4-5 months because they're saving for $400 Electric Zoo. There's no culture of seeing some obscure different DJ this Friday for $10 before midnight, and then going out next week to see another interesting DJ for $10 before midnight. It's a "go big or stay home" mentality from the promoters.

Go figure, my first gig in a Manhattan club in like 2 years is a 1 hour opening set alongside a lineup of Aly & Fila, Myon & Shane 54, and Sied Van Riel. Ten years ago, one of these guys would have been the sole headliner, I might have had my own biweekly residency. But the culture's different, and the implications it has on the way music is played and made are very far-reaching.


A lot of sad truth in this, I suppose. I've always loved the club life... but not the 85$ Deadmau5 club life. I'd much prefer to pay the 10 here and there for a solid DJ ALONE in a club. I really am not even a fan of these big ass nights with 5 fucking DJs on them, because then each DJ gets a 1 and a half or 2 hour set and really don't get a chance to display their style.

We should start a protest. Occupy Pacha?


Posted by Dream Beamz on Dec-05-2011 06:01:

quote:
Originally posted by AY STAR
i do remember tho back at arc in 2003 he played one of the best sets ever, that room was perfect for him and the vibe was threw the roof holy fuck i wish i could go back to that night ha ha ha


J00F apparently plays a lot of Montreal and I have a friend in NYC that makes train rides to see him

Was this in early 2003, if so I have a set that will probably be similar

February 22 2003 The Riveria (Rise was the name of the party) Atlanta GA
Part 1
[[ LINK REMOVED ]]

Part 2
[[ LINK REMOVED ]]



Part 1:
01: James Harcourt - Diaspora (Luke Fair Mix)
02: Human Blue - Virtual Turnaround
03: Buds not Bombs ft. Irina - Deleido (Infusion vocal exorcism mix)
04: Ron Land - Space Lab
05: Castor & Pollux - Serenity (JF Sebastian Remix)
06: ID
07: ID
08: ID
09: ID
10: Darren Tate vs. Mike Koglin - Now is the Time

Part 2:
11: Darren Tate vs. Mike Koglin - Now is the Time (Continued)
12: The Digital Blonde - Gothica
13: Human Movement - Traveller's Theme
14: Faithless - God is A DJ (Astral Projection Remix)
15: Three Drives on a Vinyl - Sunset on Ibiza (Original mix)
16: Ecano - Run (Z2 Mix)
17: Energy 52 - Cafe del Mar (John '00' Fleming Remix)
18: M.I.K.E vs John '00' Fleming - Ice Cream (M.I.K.E. Remix)
19: POS - Amnesiac
20: Astrix & Domestic - Massive Activity
21: Alternate Vision - Theatre of Magic
Part 3:
22: Alternate Vision - Theatre of Magic (Continued)
23: Astrix & Atomic Pulse - Scientific Reality
24: AR52 - TimeGate
25: ID
26: The Thrillseekers - Synaesthesia (Paul van Dyk remix)
27: DJ Robert & Martinez - Dreaming of Paprica 2003 (Dave Joy Mix)
28: Oliver Lieb - Subsonik (Filterheadz remix)
29: ID


Posted by AY STAR on Dec-06-2011 00:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Dream Beamz
J00F apparently plays a lot of Montreal and I have a friend in NYC that makes train rides to see him

Was this in early 2003, if so I have a set that will probably be similar

February 22 2003 The Riveria (Rise was the name of the party) Atlanta GA
Part 1
[[ LINK REMOVED ]]

Part 2
[[ LINK REMOVED ]]



Part 1:
01: James Harcourt - Diaspora (Luke Fair Mix)
02: Human Blue - Virtual Turnaround
03: Buds not Bombs ft. Irina - Deleido (Infusion vocal exorcism mix)
04: Ron Land - Space Lab
05: Castor & Pollux - Serenity (JF Sebastian Remix)
06: ID
07: ID
08: ID
09: ID
10: Darren Tate vs. Mike Koglin - Now is the Time

Part 2:
11: Darren Tate vs. Mike Koglin - Now is the Time (Continued)
12: The Digital Blonde - Gothica
13: Human Movement - Traveller's Theme
14: Faithless - God is A DJ (Astral Projection Remix)
15: Three Drives on a Vinyl - Sunset on Ibiza (Original mix)
16: Ecano - Run (Z2 Mix)
17: Energy 52 - Cafe del Mar (John '00' Fleming Remix)
18: M.I.K.E vs John '00' Fleming - Ice Cream (M.I.K.E. Remix)
19: POS - Amnesiac
20: Astrix & Domestic - Massive Activity
21: Alternate Vision - Theatre of Magic
Part 3:
22: Alternate Vision - Theatre of Magic (Continued)
23: Astrix & Atomic Pulse - Scientific Reality
24: AR52 - TimeGate
25: ID
26: The Thrillseekers - Synaesthesia (Paul van Dyk remix)
27: DJ Robert & Martinez - Dreaming of Paprica 2003 (Dave Joy Mix)
28: Oliver Lieb - Subsonik (Filterheadz remix)
29: ID



nah this was in sept 03, it was suppose to be him and marco v on the line-up and thats who i was really looking foward to seeing but marco couldnt make it so j00f spun an extended set
but iam listening to part 2 and it sounds pretty much the same sound
not too much psy trance stuff
very quality set


Posted by Sedna on Dec-06-2011 18:21:

I love his prog-psy side, he really weaves it in and out of the regular trance very well.


Posted by matt167698 on Dec-15-2011 19:56:

yeah it's strange - when i lived out in CO I noticed that Beta in Denver had DJ's regularly going through there that hadn't been to NYC in years...


Posted by euphoria on Dec-15-2011 20:12:

Everyone always says "bring ________ and I will come" blah blah blah and those are usually the same people who don't show up.... Just an observation lol

The "real" NYC trance crowd is (to put it in the best and nicest way possible) fickle

Unless you start some sort of landslide poll or facebook group showing proof in numbers most promoters are not willing to take the risk (and still may not even if you do so). There is plenty of risk involved. No promoter in their right mind is going to book someone just because one person requested it

If you really want to to happen you have to prove there's an audience here that will back it. Unless of course you have a venue that already has a solid walk up crowd no matter who is playing.


Posted by pyro264jb on Dec-17-2011 20:48:

:: John 00 Fleming, Olivier Berge
:: Club Arc

:: September 13th 2003
:: New York


best night of trance ive ever experienced



More pics here


quote:
Originally posted by dj tek
A Round of mothafuckin applause to the new trance resident @ Arc.. its been a long time comin... WOW is all i can say about Fleming's performance... a perfect, i mean perfect mixture of all fields of trance and then some... he mixed up beautifully with progressive house, progressive trance, uplifting trance, psy-trance, oldschool and the no id i dont know what the fuck j00f style trance that had my jaws on the floor thruout the night.. my fav. fleming set out of 3 times he spun @ Arc... great mixed crowd, perfectly fitted the dance floor, and to top it off Oliver Berge on the main fl. AND La Ronde's tag teaming of male/Female in the arcade was more than stimulating.. just all out fantastik night... good seeing everyone y'all know who you are.. tired as fuck... im out to catch some zzzzzs....

Some tracks J00F dropped.... "



Pants & Corset - Dammit Janet[REMIX !!!]
Three Drives On A Vinyl - Greece 2000[Man With No Name remix]
NEW MIKE vS J00F PRODUCTION !!!
Faithless - God Is A DJ[Astral Projection remix]
Lost Tribe - Gamemaster 2003[Matt Darey Mix]
Junkie XL & Sasha - Beauty Never Fades[Original]
Andy Ling - Fixation[Silvio Ecomo remix]
Jose Amnesia - The Eternal[Original]
Closed with VERACOCHA - CARTE BLANCHE[ORIGINAL] !!!!!!!!!!

+ a whole shitload of IDs' !!!!



TA Review thread


Posted by AY STAR on Dec-17-2011 22:57:

^^^
that was the night i was talking about
marco v was on the bill also but couldnt make it so j00f spun like a 6 hour set
i walked outta the club feeling like a million bucks
guys layed it down proper


Posted by pyro264jb on Dec-18-2011 03:07:

quote:
Originally posted by AY STAR
^^^
that was the night i was talking about
marco v was on the bill also but couldnt make it so j00f spun like a 6 hour set
i walked outta the club feeling like a million bucks
guys layed it down proper


werd


this was the track of the night for me. place went bannanas when he dropped it


Posted by The Vza on Dec-18-2011 13:00:

I 2nd what Eco and Z are saying.

The first show I saw at Glow when I moved to DC was Talla about 2 years ago. He was a resident back in the day too. I highly doubt that guy will ever get booked again in Washington. Why? Because as my boss so eloquently put it, "keeping it real doesn't pay the bills."

It's just a sad truth.

Even Myon & Shane in DC was risky. The new generation of fans want Tiesto, Avicii, Afrojack, SHM, Alesso, Laidback Luke, Fedde le Grand, Kaskade, etc. Carl Cox was packed out and i was ecstatic! They'll still come out for Armin, Markus, Ferry, PvD, ATB and the big trance names, but that's it.

None of those names are cheap. It's actually pretty whack that people will only come out for big names. Fake ass, fair weather fans. I love seeing new DJs. Morten Breum for example - that dude was actually pretty damn ill.

I think the people in bumfuck come out for these guys because they have to. It's the only booking there maybe. And it's way cheaper than booking SH

Even dubstep I don't really think makes too much money, because no one buys drinks at those shows. Look at Fall Massive in DC. They booked Diplo, Moby, Skream & Benga, Armand van Helden, Infected Mushroom, Martin Solveig, Sidney Samson and like 60 others. The reviews said they only did 9,000 people... Ouch.

I dunno - /random thoughts


Posted by DOOMBOT on Dec-18-2011 17:01:

Maybe book him for a loft party?


Posted by BradMiller on Dec-18-2011 18:09:

I always wondered if there might be a way to circumvent the risk with a collective of sorts. For example, proposing a name to book and having people pledge to support it in advance. Then before the contract is signed having said people buy the tickets or send the money upfront (to be refunded if it falls through of course). That way, there would be enough money to fund it even before the DJ is booked. Might cost a bit more for each person and would take some effort to put together - but it would be sweet if it worked..


Posted by Sedna on Dec-18-2011 19:12:

quote:
Originally posted by BradMiller
I always wondered if there might be a way to circumvent the risk with a collective of sorts. For example, proposing a name to book and having people pledge to support it in advance. Then before the contract is signed having said people buy the tickets or send the money upfront (to be refunded if it falls through of course). That way, there would be enough money to fund it even before the DJ is booked. Might cost a bit more for each person and would take some effort to put together - but it would be sweet if it worked..


If someone offered up J00F tickets before a contract was signed and said if the show fell through I'd get a refund, I would absolutely buy them.

J00F @ Santos Party House would be sooooooo awesome. Or maybe a dark basement/warehouse type party.


Posted by euphoria on Dec-18-2011 20:37:

quote:
Originally posted by BradMiller
I always wondered if there might be a way to circumvent the risk with a collective of sorts. For example, proposing a name to book and having people pledge to support it in advance. Then before the contract is signed having said people buy the tickets or send the money upfront (to be refunded if it falls through of course). That way, there would be enough money to fund it even before the DJ is booked. Might cost a bit more for each person and would take some effort to put together - but it would be sweet if it worked..


That's a marvelous idea but most wont go for it unless venue, date, and other details are confirmed. Once all of that is confirmed it better damn well not fall through or it ends up giving you a bad rep or say people buy a ticket, and then end up not being able to make it or another they like better is playing they are still gonna want a refund and thats just going to lead to a big headache for the promoter. The concept itself would make more promoters more eager to book lesser known talent but there would need to be a surefire way to work out all the kinks in advanced and backup plans when shit goes south


Posted by BradMiller on Dec-18-2011 20:52:

I would think of it more as people initially investing in a party to break-even than simply buying a ticket - and perhaps those people would act more like 'shareholders' in the sense that if the party did beyond simply breaking even at the door, the profits would be split (after operational costs) among them according to who invested / paid the most.

I think it would only work as an invested group collective in that sense since there would be no single 'promoter' or 'rep'. It would simply be a lot of people coming together to try and bring out quality talent with a mutual understanding. Of course there would need to be several who organize the logistics - but there's enough of us here that know how I'm sure we could make it work


Posted by euphoria on Dec-18-2011 22:10:

quote:
Originally posted by BradMiller
I would think of it more as people initially investing in a party to break-even than simply buying a ticket - and perhaps those people would act more like 'shareholders' in the sense that if the party did beyond simply breaking even at the door, the profits would be split (after operational costs) among them according to who invested / paid the most.

I think it would only work as an invested group collective in that sense since there would be no single 'promoter' or 'rep'. It would simply be a lot of people coming together to try and bring out quality talent with a mutual understanding. Of course there would need to be several who organize the logistics - but there's enough of us here that know how I'm sure we could make it work


True. The more people involved, the more opinions on how things with the night should go. If there is no one promoter and inexperience people are suggesting things that just won't work would be a bad idea lol


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