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Buy samples in live pack or wav format?
Im considering picking up a couple of sample packs in the primeloops sale (2 for 1).. however.. cant decide if i should get them in live pack format or in wav format.
if i get wav i could use them for other stuff later if i should switch DAWs or whatever easy.. and the live packs are 30% smaller than wave, not sure if thats just lossless packing or loss of quality?
on the other hand having them preorganized in live format is nice...
thoughts?
Re: Buy samples in live pack or wav format?
No.
not loving prime? i dont actually use loops, this are fx type things im looking at.
WAV
i hereby award this thread the 1-word-reply-award of 2011!
but thanks i guess?
I mean that you're asking a silly question, made all that much sillier because it pertains to FX loops. Furthermore, you're asking people who have no idea who you are to make a decision for you. If you honestly want to know what I'd do, I'd take the .wav file, so long as it's rendered at 96 kHz, 24 bit. Personally, however, I wouldn't pay for much of anything prefabricated by a third-party. Not that I'm knocking 3rd party developers. It's just not my style, see. Not my modus operandi, my schtick, the side my bread is buttered on, or to put it yet another way, not how I roll.
Chances are you're going to get some advice that goes every which way from Sunday. Why? Because, everyone has their own way of working with sound. Some people don't suffer from my misplaced sense of perfectionism and will tell you 44 kHz, 16 bit is perfectly fine. They'll say, go with acid loops because Ableton will take it like a white bitch takes black cock, yo. They'll tell you they made a million dollars on their last Beatport statement when they plugged in Joe Blow's third-party canned goods, pre-matched and all that fancy-schmancy, plug-n-play crapola.
It doesn't matter. It don't mean anything, to a young, impressionable kid like you. And I gotta be honest with you, kiddo, you got somethin' about you that I like. Maybe it's the lights reflecting off those baby-blues of yours and how you eagerly leap into the big boy side of the public pool. You got moxy, kid, and it'll take you to the Moon and back, but'cha gotta know, kid. You just gotta know. The great White Way of being a Super-Star producer ain't all it's cracked up to be and none of the greats - those universal greats everyone agrees on - they never done anything from a jar, they bought at the store.
That's what I'm saying, buddy. You gots to hear me! You can't buy elbow grease at a store. That's gotta come from inside. It's got to come from blood, sweat, and tears! You ever been in love with a girl you just rocked with a three minute wonder? Well, what did you do? Did you roll over, apologizing for being a hack fuck-buddy who couldn't make it last or did you get it back up and finish the job you started? Because that's what it takes! You have to shake it off, whack it up, and get your junk stiff, again! Then you gotta use the right tool, in the right place, at the right time! And if you can't, then she must not mean that much to you. You may as well reach in that drawer and pull out Mr. Stiffy, put it in her hand, and leave the room while you cry yourself to sleep on the couch. Because that's what you're doing, right now, kid! Prefab loops are your dildo and music is a bitch.
which drug are you on eddie?
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| Originally posted by MSZ which drug are you on eddie? |
I was hoping for someone with knowings of the live pack format to saw a word or two, but hey this was educational! sorta 
Good luck with the drugs too! That being said wav sounds like a plan - will work no matter where. still wondering why live packs are so much smaller than any other format.
ahh. .they are flac compressed. makes sense.
I'll get more useful information from the drugs I'm on than you'll ever get from this thread - seriously.
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| Originally posted by EddieZilker If you honestly want to know what I'd do, I'd take the .wav file, so long as it's rendered at 96 kHz, 24 bit. Some people don't suffer from my misplaced sense of perfectionism and will tell you 44 kHz, 16 bit is perfectly fine. |
wav. live packs are bullshit.
get them on ATR magnetic tape.
get them on ATR magnetic tape.
get WAVs
Primeloops are garbage, to be honest.
Not worth the money.
There are better places to shop for loops.
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| Originally posted by Fledz That's all you had to say, for fucks sake. Seriously, just stop. You're more of a jaded troll with each passing day. Ravan - I'd go with Wav. Good format and easily transferable, future proof if you will. |
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| Originally posted by ravan I was hoping for someone with knowings of the live pack format to saw a word or two, but hey this was educational! sorta Good luck with the drugs too! That being said wav sounds like a plan - will work no matter where. still wondering why live packs are so much smaller than any other format. ahh. .they are flac compressed. makes sense. |
make sure it has REX2. Wav and REX 2 ideally. Unless live pack is a similar thing like REX2 and mimics what STYLUS does, then I would go with live. But if it is the same price, REX2 and WAV multiformat.
you have to buy each format.. which is annoying.
live is pretty good at slicing and stretching audio to any tempo (warping) so went with wav.
theres is a specific format called live packs which, as i understand it, is almost like a reason refill..
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| Originally posted by Looney4Clooney make sure it has REX2. Wav and REX 2 ideally. Unless live pack is a similar thing like REX2 and mimics what STYLUS does, then I would go with live. But if it is the same price, REX2 and WAV multiformat. |
it is for STYLUS, which is the best tool for loops period. It already includes the slices imbedded in the meta data. Stylus makes every loop either a loop or a collection of 1 shoots, easy to change the loop so you can't recognize it, adjust the timing , everything.
If you aren't using stylus with your loops, you are missing out.
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| Originally posted by Looney4Clooney it is for STYLUS, which is the best tool for loops period. It already includes the slices imbedded in the meta data. Stylus makes every loop either a loop or a collection of 1 shoots, easy to change the loop so you can't recognize it, adjust the timing , everything. If you aren't using stylus with your loops, you are missing out. |
Stylus is one of the plugins of the decade. Anyone will tell you that. No other program can do what it does with such ease. No other program even comes close. If you don't have stylus, and you are using loops, you are an idiot. It really is that simple. Stylus has the worst customer service ? Are you on crack ? There was that one issue with mac and trilogy bass. Everything else has been smooth sailing. All their products are 64 bit, they all work flawlessly, and their customer service , god knows why you would have to use it is ridiculously
good. To the point where you ask a stupid question and they will be the ones hounding you until it is working.
that is the whole point of stylus. It makes loops about 100x more useful. You are no longer bound by the loop. You can change everything. To do this in Kontakt is a chore, any other sampler is just as tedious. Stylus is extremely powerful if you know how to use it. If you haven't used it as i'm thinking is the situation here, then you are misinformed and missing out.
People ask why no stylus 2. The whole point is that you can add what ever you want to it. The plugin has been around for almost a decade it seems and it is just as relevant and useful. There is no other VI being used to that extent for that long. none. So 400 $ for a tool that has lasted 10 years and is still the most useful tool for what you want to do. How is that not worth 400$.I'm not exaggerating. If was released in 2001. The same product. Everything else has been FREE improvements.
In fact if there was like a hall of fame
stylus
Waves C4
Waves L2
RChannel
Interesting.. if i start using loops more i will check it out, havent seen it in a long time and never used it seriously.
However right now, i am just using some fx type sounds and try to program/record the rest myself so less important with loop manipulation maybe.
(thanks for all the input btw.. was glad this evolved from a trollfest to actual usuful info!)
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