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Posted by -FSP- on Dec-17-2011 01:45:

Who would you say is a producer's producer?

Hello fellow producers! Who would you say is a producer's producer? I would definitely have to give it to Robert Babicz. That guy's songs have the holy trinity of being loud, clear, and dynamic. He also makes great arrangements and is overall a great songwriter.

I'm just curious to see who you guys respect as producers. Yes, these threads pop up every other month, but whatever.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Dec-17-2011 01:48:

Quincy Jones.

regarding your pick

good producer , but there is nothing about him that you could say , huh , never heard that anywhere else before. I think that is a kinda important. He is good, but unnecessary. Making good mixes, cool arrangements for a track that is alright is not enough for me. THe litmus test for me is, if this guy was dead, would anyone notice. Not really. Some other person that makes pretty good tracks that don't stand out would take his place.

Dennis Waakop-Reijers

truly a producers producer

lol.


Posted by cryophonik on Dec-17-2011 02:55:

Yeah, it's pretty hard to argue against a guy like Quincy Jones. Personally, I think a "producer's producer" should be pretty well-rounded, rather than a specialist in one relatively small niche. So, even though they may not have household names, I think of Bill Leeb and Rhys Fulber (Frontline Assembly, Delerium, Conjure One, Noise Unit, Synaesthesia, Equinox, Pro-Tech, etc.) as being two of the most notable electronica producers simply because they cover so much range so well and have had long successful careers working with many excellent artists.


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Dec-17-2011 02:56:

Paul Van Dyk


Posted by MSZ on Dec-17-2011 02:57:

i suppose ill say bt. hes creative, a really good musician, and has good synthesis / sound design skills. im not a fan of a lot of his work but that doesn't mean i don't think hes very skilled. There are a lot of producers that i consider 'masters' but i wont name though because of subjective reasoning. no just kidding, i definitely mean scot project.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Dec-17-2011 06:05:

You worked probably appreciate him a lot more if your exposure to production preceded the mid 2000. The problem is that you just don't really know dance music. You only see things from the year 2010. Mozarts music is considered pretty fucking basic. Wagner makes him look incompetent. But Wagner was on the shoulders of giants. And yes, scot project was is extremely influential. Every trance producer around that was releaseng prior to 2000 knows who he is, and will express that he is one of the few great producers. Not one. The only difference is that all those other guys started making very palettable trance that was esy to sell while scot project was always doing his own thing.

H is a great producer among many. He contributed a genre. I think that ain't bad. Most of the hardstyle guys pretty much did what he was doing and added hardcore elements. So 2 genres if you want to be picky. Is he the current torch bearer? No but he his the kind of producer that well for example, will never use a loop. Won't catch him using nexus. Most of the leads were pioneered by him. Every track is a unique composition, he doesn't recycle, and I think he has integrity.

But people like you will dismiss any genre you dont like. The same kind of person that will not say hear skillex and noisia and the innovatios they did despite it all going to shit. You need to step back and be a little more objective.

Fucking iPad typing.

Do iu really want me to make a thread and explain why he was influential ?


Posted by MSZ on Dec-17-2011 06:19:

lol its so easy to rattle your cage. yes please make that thread, show us who he influenced and stuff like that it would be oh so fascinating, i cant wait to read it while im takin' a poop! show me the light.


Posted by Subtle on Dec-17-2011 06:28:

Paul Oakenfold, he has constantly been producing quality music across many genres, always comes up with new sounds and melodies, fluctuates from commercial to underground his productions are always top notch and something new every time.


Posted by Storyteller on Dec-17-2011 09:16:

chris reece. Pop, rock, house. He does it all


Posted by itsamemario on Dec-17-2011 10:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
You worked probably appreciate him a lot more if your exposure to production preceded the mid 2000. The problem is that you just don't really know dance music. You only see things from the year 2010. Mozarts music is considered pretty fucking basic. Wagner makes him look incompetent. But Wagner was on the shoulders of giants. And yes, scot project was is extremely influential. Every trance producer around that was releaseng prior to 2000 knows who he is, and will express that he is one of the few great producers. Not one. The only difference is that all those other guys started making very palettable trance that was esy to sell while scot project was always doing his own thing.

H is a great producer among many. He contributed a genre. I think that ain't bad. Most of the hardstyle guys pretty much did what he was doing and added hardcore elements. So 2 genres if you want to be picky. Is he the current torch bearer? No but he his the kind of producer that well for example, will never use a loop. Won't catch him using nexus. Most of the leads were pioneered by him. Every track is a unique composition, he doesn't recycle, and I think he has integrity.

But people like you will dismiss any genre you dont like. The same kind of person that will not say hear skillex and noisia and the innovatios they did despite it all going to shit. You need to step back and be a little more objective.

Fucking iPad typing.

Do iu really want me to make a thread and explain why he was influential ?


Lol.


Posted by tehlord on Dec-17-2011 11:46:

Neelix


But really Trevor Horn - OMFG


Posted by Vector A on Dec-17-2011 13:00:

Richard D. James.


Posted by Dj_Kile on Dec-17-2011 13:34:

Delerium i second that and i want to add hybrid too


Posted by Sean Walsh on Dec-17-2011 20:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
THe litmus test for me is, if this guy was dead, would anyone notice.


Can anyone in fucking EDM pass this test?

I mean seriously, 100 years from now people will still listen to Chopin's Piano Concerto No. 2 in F minor. If they listen to turn-of-the-21st-century EDM they'll just be futuristic hipster twat-rags.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Dec-17-2011 21:56:

Yes, I think you can. I misquoted myself. If the person never existed , would things of been that different.


Posted by Rebel Brown on Dec-18-2011 11:53:

Eno?


Posted by wayfinder on Dec-18-2011 16:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Yes, I think you can. I misquoted myself. If the person never existed , would things of been that different.
have


Posted by Rodri Santos on Dec-18-2011 17:11:

For me Infected Mushroom and Leon Bolier in terms of sound design are great, Bolier also makes his track incredibly loud it is not that i support this but even if it is overcompressed it still sounds fine.

Airbase sound design is brilliant, his tracks however specially the older ones aren't perfectly produced and the mixdown isn't that great,kicks aren't thumping enough etc... a thing that i couldn't care more if you find such an outstanding melodies.

Humate... there are a lot of good producers, personally i find Babicz boring, it sounds "too perfect" i prefer it a bit raw sometimes :P


Posted by EddieZilker on Dec-18-2011 17:29:

Orbital, Deepsky, Wink, Keoki, Plastikman (Hawtin), The Orb, & Babicz - to name a few.

All of these people have, in some way, played a role in shaping the overall sound of EDM.


Posted by tehlord on Dec-18-2011 17:36:

I forgot Yello in the 80s before they got shit.


Posted by EddieZilker on Dec-18-2011 17:43:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
I forgot Yello in the 80s before they got shit.


& Art of Noise & Severed Heads. I listened to Art of Noise constantly as a teenager.




EDIT: Should throw in KLF for good measure.

EDIT 2: After consideration, the following - Alan Wilder (Depeche Mode and solo work), Paul Robb (Information Society), Vince Clark (Erasure), Flood (Remixes for a couple of the above and others), Chris Lowe (Pet Shop Boys)


Posted by Nicolas Oliver on Dec-18-2011 18:44:

Alex di Stefano, Phunk Investigation (although a few of their tracks have been squashed too much IMO), and Subfractal.


Posted by TranceLover007 on Dec-18-2011 19:11:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
I forgot Yello in the 80s before they got shit.


Right on man, +1

Darek


Posted by -FSP- on Dec-18-2011 20:24:

Eno definitely makes the list.

I forgot to add Oliver Lieb, that guy is just awesome.


Posted by Beatflux on Dec-18-2011 20:40:

quote:
Originally posted by -FSP-
Eno definitely makes the list.


+1


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