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Does this tune exist?

Hey everyone!

So, I downloaded an alert tone on my phone after searching for trance, and got a pretty nice, few seconds long trance tune I wasn't familiar with. I liked it so this evening I have been trying to make a tune out of it.

So my question to you is, does anyone know please if a tune with this melody already exists before I waste any time on it? lol [please also tell me if you have never heard it]

Tune090112 by Wayn0

No structure yet of course, just 3 chunks of a track not so elegantly merged

Might still go with a variation of this anyway if not, I'm enjoying making it.

Thanks in advance, much appreciated!

Wayne

I like it!! Keep going!! And btw.. if not in trance, all melodies, chord progressions, harmonies, etc. etc. have been done before..

I actually kinda like this

Never heard it before.

Thanks guys, I'm glad you like it! I guess i will get my head down and do this then

Very nice! Definitely keep going, and keep us posted on the progress.

Thanks magnus, will do, although I have a habit of not finishing stuff! lol I tend to hit barriers in my ability.

yes it has ben done. New melodies don't exist.

It doesn't sound like any particular track so I wouldn't worry about it. IF you had the same melody with the same rhythm and voicings and the same synth , then i would maybe change it but just accept the fact that every melody that follows western tonal tradition has been done.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney New melodies don't exist.

[citation needed]

I am an expert in my field with credentials scholarly and practical that make what I say the opinion of an expert which is good enough for a citation. So there. And i have been cited in music journals. Well music journal. Not that I could prove to you in any objective way but music is like that.

The point i think is that like chords, melodies are also past the point of exhaustion. They are small permutations on things already done. And considering that alot of melodies in trance, would not qualify as a melody ie just using chords having the top note as your intended melody and say there was a big lawsuit, they would call on musicologists that would say it isn't a melody, while others will say it is. I mean when you actually think about it, what is or isn't a melody is a matter of opinion.

The take home message is that it doesn't matter.

That is the great part of having a masters from Juilliard. It is the equivalent of a harvard law degree. I can just say shit and i might be wrong but it doesn't really matter. At that point , it is just a difference of opinion.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney That is the great part of having a masters from Juilliard. It is the equivalent of a harvard law degree. I can just say shit and i might be wrong but it doesn't really matter. At that point , it is just a difference of opinion.

haha law works exactly that way, in the end what is important is what the high court says, they could say sky is pink that people would have to accept it.

I'm aware of your experience, most of us are, I just assumed that level of experience would discourage someone from making objective claims about subjective matters. Guess not.

I just think between all of the key signatures, chords, progressions of said chords, time signatures and subdivisions... it's kind of odd to believe everything's already been done before.

Not that I think you're saying every theoretically possible combination of notes has been done before, but anything less isn't really saying much at all. But like you said, it doesn't matter, so I don't really want to make this a thing.

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Originally posted by Kysora [citation needed]

No citation needed.

The fact is that there is a finite amount of rhythms and a finite amount of keys on a keyboard.

Everything has been done before. These keys have existed since the creation of the piano and so, anything you can think of has been done probably a million times already.

:fact

i don't think it is a coincidence that the only thing changing in music is production aesthetic. Sure a melody might vary, keys don't matter as the odds of having perfect pitch are 1 in 10 000.

My point was that chances , yes it has been done. But it really doesn't matter. So don't worry.

yeah well.. that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney i don't think it is a coincidence that the only thing changing in music is production aesthetic. Sure a melody might vary, keys don't matter as the odds of having perfect pitch are 1 in 10 000. My point was that chances , yes it has been done. But it really doesn't matter. So don't worry.

I didn't know you had a Masters from Julliard. That's quite impressive.

Speaking rough, given 7 roots and 5 sharps chances of having the same sequence aren't high enough to think that if it sounds alike is a coincidence but at the same time surely someone at least have a sucession of 3-4 notes like you in the track, different speed, intensity, pattern but it's a fact.

When i bought my piano the guy told me that the combinations were almost limitless due to this (and really you can get accurate results to what you want to represent, something that isn't always possible with electronic keyboards).

But this melody seems quite simple, it's the kind of stuff you hear in a commercial and then you write it down thinking is brand new stuff, if you want something unique try F#M , includes all the sharps and few people make melodies on this key, it is quite odd sounding and sad to our Am/CM accustomed ears but provides you interestin combinations.

Like L4C already pointed out, key does not really matter to the vast majority of listeners, intervals matter. Intervals are how people without absolute pitch tell whether a melody is the "same" as another. Root, 3 semitones up, one semitone down, 5 semitones up will sound like the same melody even if you start in a different place on the keyboard.

Wow this thread really took off while i was gone lol!

I know what you mean, the main reason I asked was because I wanted to make sure that I hadn't heard this somewhere and forgot about it, for it to sit in my subconscious.


As for the literal interpretation of my question, yes it's pretty much certain that the combination of chords (especially given the simplicity) exists.

Yes it's lucky that everyone doesn't have perfect pitch, but it's quite shocking sometimes at how slight a variation can be and some people dont notice, e.g in chart music. Tbh, every song i ever hear reminds me of something else, it's a shame really because it also stops me from producing sometimes, as i struggle to settle on something that I am satisfied is original!

Thanks for the discussion though anyway :-)

I actually start to like Kysora.

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Originally posted by meriter LOL

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