Looks like they're trying to get in on the Live paradigm, but it has some potentially interesting features (e.g., per-note automation, device, nesting, generic tracks).
They're looking for beta-testers if any of you guys want to get in on it early and probably get a free NFR version.
Posted by Julz on Jan-12-2012 17:39:
Looks soo similar to live.
At least they got multi monitor support.
Posted by gothicbatchick on Jan-12-2012 17:42:
Looks like a total rip off of Live with a few new features tacked on. Why bother jumping into shit when we don't know whether or not the ship with sink or float?
Posted by Acton on Jan-12-2012 17:51:
At least it has multi-monitor support
Posted by cryophonik on Jan-12-2012 17:54:
quote:
Originally posted by Julz
Looks soo similar to live.
At least they got multi monitor support.
And 64-bit support. (although rumor has it that Live 9 w/x64 release is imminent, probably announced at NAMM next week)
quote:
Originally posted by gothicbatchick
Looks like a total rip off of Live with a few new features tacked on.
Someone on KVR made a comment that it looks like Live got raped by FLS and a rainbow.
quote:
Originally posted by gothicbatchick
Why bother jumping into shit when we don't know whether or not the ship with sink or float?
A lot of people felt that there was no room in the market for PreSonus Studio One when it was first announced, but it's done very well. As for Bitwig, from what I recall, they actually announced this about 2 years ago or so, and a lot of people have been keeping an eye on its development. So, I'm guessing that there will be a market for it, but of course, that will largely come down to features/usability and price.
Posted by cryophonik on Jan-12-2012 19:15:
Apparently, the developers are ex-Ableton guys. That explains a lot.
Posted by Nightshift on Jan-12-2012 21:15:
quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Apparently, the developers are ex-Ableton guys. That explains a lot.
lol i was just about to type this, yes my friend notified me of this a couple months back and it is the ex-developers of Live plus some ex-developers or other DAWs coming together in one project.
It looks interesting and it looks like Live may become obselete for music production in the near future and left to what its original use was, Live performance.
This is the only gripe i had with Live, is that they would cater to both live performance AND music production which made a huge room for error and bugs amongst each side. Looks like now there will be a Live, without the "live" and im excited to see what happens.
Posted by cryophonik on Jan-12-2012 21:53:
Did you sign up to be a beta tester, Nightshift?
Posted by Nightshift on Jan-12-2012 21:58:
quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Did you sign up to be a beta tester, Nightshift?
yes yes yes! i hope to get chosen Posted by tehlord on Jan-12-2012 22:06:
Seems like the bloke behind Surge and Shortcircuit is involved too. Perhaps the latter will be part of the package in some form, that would be sweet.
Looks interesting, especially for teh darnce crowd.
Posted by evo8 on Jan-13-2012 19:27:
Competition is good...forces everyone to up their game
Posted by TWD on Jan-14-2012 18:07:
I don't think that "Live with a few extra features" really captures it correctly. How about:
All the stupid junk that annoyed the crap out of us for years in Ableton have finally be fixed by someone else.
If the next version of live doesn't live up to the hype I can easily see myself jumping ship. Of course it all depends on the level of support and the community that develops around the product.
Posted by Terrence Parker on Jan-14-2012 18:27:
Looks pretty interesting, can't wait to try it out.
Posted by Beatflux on Jan-14-2012 18:46:
I want a see a DAW that does something different, not another copycat.
Posted by cryophonik on Jan-14-2012 19:12:
quote:
Originally posted by Beatflux
I want a see a DAW that does something different,...
Such as?
Posted by Julz on Jan-14-2012 19:15:
A DAW that makes a Armin appear on screen every once in a while to tell you how awsome you are
THIS
Posted by Beatflux on Jan-14-2012 19:33:
quote:
Originally posted by Julz
A DAW that makes a Armin appear on screen every once in a while to tell you how awsome you are
THIS
Well shit...at least it would be something different. I'll take it. :P
Posted by Evol` on Jan-14-2012 20:10:
Posted by Beatflux on Jan-15-2012 06:27:
quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Such as?
Now that I"ve had time to think about :
Automation that can be treated like audio. So it can be leveled out, have different waveforms, but manipulated via other automation lanes(kind of like side chaining). Audio and Note automation devices. Random automation curves.
A midi view that combines all midi channels into one roll that uses letters instead of a vertical position to display pitch.
A piano roll that uses the vertical aspect to select the automation state of the plug in, so you can greater control over each note rather than having to automate each note individually. So maybe some notes have long release tails, while other ones have a short decay time, etc.
Once you have all of your automation states setup up, being creative is just messing around with the vertical positions on the piano roll. THen when you are done, you could switch the piano roll back to a more traditional view.
A sample finder that can easily find samples that sound similar to one you like. So maybe you need a hihat that's just a little brighter, and instead of hunting through file after file, this little gismo finds one for you.
Posted by Terrence Parker on Jun-21-2012 14:09:
Looks like they are making some progress
Posted by Kysora on Jun-21-2012 15:37:
quote:
Originally posted by Beatflux
A piano roll that uses the vertical aspect to select the automation state of the plug in, so you can greater control over each note rather than having to automate each note individually. So maybe some notes have long release tails, while other ones have a short decay time, etc.
This seems easy enough to implement. FL's piano roll already has per-note parameters for things like velocity.
If you could route that function to any parameter in your DAW, it'd be a very useful feature.
Posted by Beatflux on Jun-21-2012 16:28:
quote:
Originally posted by Kysora
This seems easy enough to implement. FL's piano roll already has per-note parameters for things like velocity.
If you could route that function to any parameter in your DAW, it'd be a very useful feature.
Ideally it would be like Ableton's automation, you click on the parameter and it automatically selects it for you.
Posted by cryophonik on Jul-09-2012 23:25:
New Bitwig vid, for those interested:
Posted by kadomony on Jul-13-2012 04:02:
anyone here on the 1st round of beta?
Posted by cryophonik on Jul-13-2012 15:35:
quote:
Originally posted by kadomony
anyone here on the 1st round of beta?
The NDA that I may or may not have signed may or may not have a clause prohibiting me from disclosing my status as a beta tester.
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(although rumor has it that Live 9 w/x64 release is imminent, probably announced at NAMM next week)
