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Posted by Special K on Jan-12-2012 23:29:

Ink

Just an observation ...

But they definitely aren't looking like the force in the scene that they once were, and if anything they look to be on the decline. A couple of things point to this such as:

- A further increasing amount of commercial DJS being booked.

- An exodus of local talent like (Carlo, The Junkies, Nathan quitting).

- Several "no name DJs" playing at Zone with an insane cover.

- Headliners usually loyal to INK playing at other venues in the city.

- Weaker long weekend line ups.

It seems like they have gone on total auto-pilot mode with the clubbing / music side of their business.

Perhaps a by-product of their dabbling in restaurants / lounges / condos etc. It almost feels like clubbing side of their business (which is what brought them their success in the first place) has gone on the back-burner with less importance and attention being paid to it.

Posted by rulzz on Jan-13-2012 00:11:

agree 100% it has been like this for last 3-4 years at least

Posted by PurpleHaze on Jan-13-2012 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by rulzz
agree 100% it has been like this for last 3-4 years at least

Most definitely - but Ink has been crumbling at an exponential rate as of recently...

This year's Family Day lineup (one of the few big parties nowadays that you could almost certainly count on Ink to provide a semi-proper lineup) pretty much sums this up. Pretty safe to say this is what to expect at every all access party from now on...

What's the story behind the Junkies/Carlo/Nathan & Ink anyways?

Posted by ChemEnhanced on Jan-13-2012 00:34:

Posted by Cribby on Jan-13-2012 01:36:

quote:
Originally posted by rulzz
agree 100% it has been like this for last 3-4 years at least

Sounds about right.

Posted by geroin on Jan-13-2012 01:44:

quote:
Originally posted by rulzz
agree 100% it has been like this for last 3-4 years at least

Posted by ChemEnhanced on Jan-13-2012 01:55:

ink is just giving their target audience what they want....now that you guys are older you are starting to sound more like me 3 or 4 years ago.

Posted by geroin on Jan-13-2012 04:15:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
ink is just giving their target audience what they want....now that you guys are older you are starting to sound more like me 3 or 4 years ago.

right..

3-4+ years ago they were booking techno/tech-house/house legends on a regular basis, i was in my early 20's and enjoyed myself as would any 30+ year old. It has nothing to do with age, they are just constantly booking shit talent, its sickening and sad at the same time..

it started with circa vs guv competition to see who can kill of who first. Guv won but they were left with shitload of commercial djs and there's pretty much no going back now.

Posted by london_ta on Jan-13-2012 14:17:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
it started with circa vs guv competition to see who can kill of who first. Guv won but they were left with shitload of commercial djs and there's pretty much no going back now.

If you didn't notice already it seems Footwork is the force to be reckon with now. They seamlessly took a great idea, to a great club, formed sold promoting team, and now became smart booking agents for the club. Of course not forgetting the promoting teams they are working with who bring in certain talent (I/O, Platform, etc.

My question is... Does Ink have a spot in Footwork's booking at all?

Who's going to take over booking for cz? Or is it going to crash and burn with Ink?

Is Ink going to continue on the mainstream plunge with The Guv and end up like Circa?

insert jonjon's comments here

Posted by Sasha on Jan-13-2012 16:50:

oooh booy, i have sooo much to sayyy, but it wouldn't be ethical

Posted by geroin on Jan-13-2012 16:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Sasha
oooh booy, i have sooo much to sayyy, but it wouldn't be ethical

how much money do they owe you? lol

Posted by PivotTechno on Jan-13-2012 17:22:

quote:
Originally posted by london_ta
If you didn't notice already it seems Footwork is the force to be reckon with now.

Really? The last couple of times I stepped foot in FW, I was very disappointed on several levels - sound quality, music, crowd. Just one humble opinion, but as far as cutting-edge venues go, it's long past its due date.

Posted by SPANIARD on Jan-13-2012 21:04:

Can't wait to hear jay's response if he's still working for them.

Posted by DigDeep on Jan-13-2012 22:17:

Could just be an observation, but recently Footwork's attendance has been hitting capacity on a more frequent basis. I'm sure the INK direction with bookings has a lot to do with it....

Posted by GGM on Jan-14-2012 00:26:

I agree their bookings have been getting cheesier and going downhill in terms of actual quality but I don't agree they're going out of business anytime soon. The busiest nights by far are the cheesiest bookings so imo they're only doing what brings them the most profits. As a corporation that's (unfortunately for us) called doing your job.

Posted by ChemEnhanced on Jan-14-2012 00:58:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
right..

3-4+ years ago they were booking techno/tech-house/house legends on a regular basis, i was in my early 20's and enjoyed myself as would any 30+ year old. It has nothing to do with age, they are just constantly booking shit talent, its sickening and sad at the same time..

it started with circa vs guv competition to see who can kill of who first. Guv won but they were left with shitload of commercial djs and there's pretty much no going back now.

three or four years ago techno was the big thing....hence why they booked techno....cheese is the new big thing and so they book cheese.

Posted by Spam on Jan-14-2012 04:43:

quote:
Originally posted by PivotTechno
Really? The last couple of times I stepped foot in FW, I was very disappointed on several levels - sound quality, music, crowd. Just one humble opinion, but as far as cutting-edge venues go, it's long past its due date.

I don't know what night you went, but the crowd at FW has always been stellar when I go. Sound depends on how loud they run it. Quality seems to be prime at a certain volume, usually before 1am and later on in the night it always seems to get turned up, and then the distortion kicks in.

Music, of course, is entirely dependent on the DJ spinning and/or your personal taste, so I feel like that's a silly thing to point out. Platform nights are my go-to, and I always love JB's openers.

That all said, to claim that a club that holds 200 (ish?) patrons is the "force to be reckoned" sounds a little ridiculous to me too.

Posted by PivotTechno on Jan-14-2012 06:32:

As mentioned, t'was just my opinion, totally open to opposition. I tend to like a bit of a freakshow when I go out, I like jacking Techno and House, and I like my speakers loud, clear and bass-heavy. I gave FW one last chance with Carl Craig back in Oct, 2010, and none of the above were present - swore off the place after that.

Most T.O. venues are just a bit too staid for my taste - they seem to do well enough without my attendance, so it's nothing anyone needs to get in a knot over, really.

Posted by slingshot on Jan-14-2012 07:30:

Charles is quite a brilliant business man....diversifying into new product lines/revenue streams is natural for someone at that level. The Guvernment's days are literally numbered; look no further than the Waterfront Toronto development plans. Charles has obviously moved on to different things, and good for him.

Posted by Skipper on Jan-14-2012 09:36:

Damn, I thought this was about tattoos.

Posted by Shaya007 on Jan-15-2012 00:26:

Abercrombie stopped clubbing and all went downhill..lol