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Five B.C. deaths linked to lethal chemical PMMA
Five British Columbians have died from ecstasy laced with the lethal chemical PMMA since last August, B.C's chief coroner announced today, after a review of the province's 18 most recent ecstasy-related deaths.
Lisa Lapointe said the three males and two females -- ranging in age from 14 to 37 -- have died from taking MDMA pills laced with the same chemical linked to a spate of recent deaths in the Calgary area.
"PMMA is a rare drug, it's something that we haven't seen before in relation to ecstasy-related deaths," Lapointe said during a media conference call this afternoon. "As with MDMA there's no known safe dose of PMMA.
"We also had in the same period 13 other ecstasy-related deaths."
In four of the five PMMA-related deaths one or more other substances such as alcohol, marijuana and cocaine were present, said Lapointe, who added these substances are also found in most ecstasy-related deaths.
PMMA ( para-Methoxymethamphetamine) is about five times more toxic than MDMA or pure ecstasy. Though it is much more toxic than MDMA, PMMA has a slower and milder onset of its effects.
"[Users] start taking more pills because they think they got lower doses and they end up with much more significant overdoses," B.C.'s provincial health officer Dr. Perry Kendall confirmed in another conference call with media Thursday afternoon.
He noted [PMMA] also "significantly interferes" with the brain, which can cause the user's body temperature to rise.
"Once you get to 104, 105 degrees, you can get irreversible brain and organ damage," Kendall said.
PMMA is now being added to the list of chemicals that a coroner screens for when conducting a toxicology report, but it would cost too much money to review ecstasy-related deaths for PMMA from years ago, Lapointe said.
"We've always known that ecstasy tablets -- while they do include MDMA -- could include a variety of things," Lapointe said.
In 2006 seven British Columbians had ecstasy-related deaths. That number jumped to 12 in 2007, then 23 in 2008, 21 in 2009 and 20 in 2010, according to Lapointe.
Several police agencies have tablets that were voluntarily forwarded to them recently and may contain the lethal MDMA/PMMA mix. However, authorities don't want to post pictures of the pills because it may give users the impression that those pills are risky while the others are safe Lapointe said.
Tyler Miller, 20, of Abbotsford died from a PMMA-laced pill on Nov. 27, 2011 his father Russ Miller confirmed.
"He had all the info from us; he knew all the facts," said Miller told The Sun Thursday. "But it's the adage at that age: Nothing touches you. You're bulletproof."
Miller and his wife, Laurie Mossey, a youth drug and addictions worker, had previously found an open Facebook page where Tyler and his friends were talking about the drug. They made him attend drug counselling sessions for six weeks and when he passed a random drug test some months later they thought he had put it behind him.
"Don't trust everything you're told," Miller cautioned parents. "You want to double-check and then triple-check. Being a little nosy but having them there for the rest of your life? I'd rather be a little nosy.
"Even that's not going to guarantee a sure thing, but at that point you've done what you can."
Three other people in the Lower Mainland have died from reactions to ecstasy in recent weeks: a 17-year-old girl from Abbotsford; a 22-year-old Vancouver woman who took the drug at a house party; and another 22-year-old Vancouver woman who was hospitalized after taking ecstasy on New Year's Eve and died last Friday.
As well, a 24-year-old Abbotsford woman who took the drug Jan. 2 remains in critical condition.
Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Fi...l#ixzz1jSdkPTgP
Re: Five B.C. deaths linked to lethal chemical PMMA
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authorities don't want to post pictures of the pills because it may give users the impression that those pills are risky while the others are safe Lapointe said. |
Re: Re: Five B.C. deaths linked to lethal chemical PMMA
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| Originally posted by WittyHandle Fuck you |
It's because they want people to avoid all E pills in general now, and not make them be selective about which ones are safe and which ones aren't
glad i only shoot H now
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| Originally posted by chinamon glad i only shoot H now |
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| Originally posted by Nobbie Q It's because they want people to avoid all E pills in general now, and not make them be selective about which ones are safe and which ones aren't |
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| Originally posted by d-form But if the same principle was applied to other drugs they wouldn't provide safe ways to do them they'd say they're dangerous and shouldn't be consumed. Article in the province says that a girl who OD'd on new years and is recovering took 7 pills. WTF??? |
7 Pills? Pfft that's childs play.
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| Originally posted by Nobbie Q It's because they want people to avoid all E pills in general now, and not make them be selective about which ones are safe and which ones aren't |
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| Originally posted by Nobbie Q But 7 pills is serious, PMMA or not PMMA laced. She's an idiot. |
I can't believe they won't post pics of the actual pills. Maybe the users should get together and put those pics out there. I am sure someone knows which ones they are.
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| Originally posted by StereoPrincess I can't believe they won't post pics of the actual pills. Maybe the users should get together and put those pics out there. I am sure someone knows which ones they are. |
This is why drugs should be legalized and regulated by the government. We are going to do drugs regardless of laws, might as well make it safe and profitable
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| In recent weeks, it seems, adulterated ecstasy (MDMA) has left Alberta and B.C. with a sizable heap of young corpses. A tragedy has thus come home to roost in the West: namely, the tragedy of policy that incentivizes adulteration of drugs that, if manufactured in the open and checked for purity, would kill hardly anybody. Pure MDMA has a larger �therapeutic index��a wider safety margin for overdose�than alcohol. It would probably make a pretty reasonable substitute for alcohol in many settings if we were to sit down and rebuild a drug culture from scratch. But over the past ten years or so, both Liberal and Conservative governments have worked to increase penalties for and monitoring of the flow of �precursor chemicals� used in the manufacture of MDMA. It has been their goal to make pure MDMA more difficult to manufacture; when precursors are seized it is hailed as a triumph. But illicit drug factories never do put out the follow-up press release announcing that they�re putting less MDMA in their �ecstasy� and replacing it with other party drugs that have much smaller safety margins, or with drugs that interact dangerously with MDMA. And when rave kids die as a result, the RCMP chooses not to pose imperiously alongside the body bags giving a big thumbs-up. They are eager to take credit only for the immediately visible results of their work. The medical examiner in Alberta said she was surprised to find methamphetamine and other meth analogues in the remains of some of the victims she saw. As this monograph on the history of ecstasy explains, however, adulteration of ecstasy with precisely this class of substances is a known result of intensified legal pressure on ecstasy markets�and that, in turn, has made it harder for researchers to measure the harm from chronic use of MDMA, as such, in the wild. It�s the circle of drug-war life: hysteria begets ignorance, and vice versa. The debate over �harm reduction� in Canada has, for the past year or so, revolved around the Insite clinic in East Vancouver. That debate has been fraught with as much confusion and misinformation as drug moralizers could possibly create, but the core message, I think, has gotten through to Canadians, and certainly to the gatekeepers of their media. The message is this: we have only meagre power to stop people from abusing heroin if they are determined to do that. We do have, however, significant ability to protect people from the problems of a poorly-titrated or actively adulterated supply of heroin. The morbidity and mortality burden from the actual addiction itself, compared to the burden resulting from the drug�s illegality, is both modest and intractable. Insite is basically designed to yield the benefits that allowing heroin to be issued by prescription would bring. Canada is apparently too under-equipped with libertarians to see that the logic extends to ecstasy, which about a million adult Canadians have used at least once. Yet rave-scene users have already been implementing �harm reduction� philosophy on the dance floor for decades. They react as best they can to adulteration risks by sharing information about dealer reliability, and they mitigate the most important medical peril of MDMA�the possibility of hyperthermia, i.e., internal overheating�by making sure ravers have access to cool rooms and plenty of fluids. Drug prohibition makes all of this more difficult, though in practice the cops look the other way. They�re interested, they�ll tell you, in the synthesizers and traffickers. That approach sets off a cascade of adulteration that lands on the heads of young people outside the bounds of an established consumer-safety culture�the ones who will buy �ecstasy� out of a truck because it�s cheaper than booze. (Which, by the way, the Alberta government wants to make more expensive.) Ecstasy is synonymous with raves, but none of the five Calgarian youths who have died seem to have taken it in that setting. A couple were reported to have taken alarmingly large numbers of pills, prompting the Calgary Herald to accuse them posthumously of �extreme drug use� before it became clear that they were not victims of MDMA at all. The Herald was given a pretty strong clue by the death of Daniel Dahl, a young graffiti artist whose death the paper attributed to �toxic� MDMA�even though he had been thrown out of a bar for fighting the evening he got sick. That�s not the behaviour of someone who�s taken ecstasy. It�s the behaviour of somebody who thinks he�s taken ecstasy and has ended up with a liver full of meth and other junk. Maybe Dahl (who had gulped seven tablets) and the others weren�t drug-crazy idiots who overdid it; maybe they had just adapted to a supply of �ecstasy� tablets largely consisting of caffeine and cough medicine, and were taken by surprise when they flooded their organs with paramethoxymethamphetamine instead. It�s prohibition that makes that possible�indeed, makes it virtually certain to happen on occasion. When Daniel Dahl�s mother says �I feel like they�ve murdered my son,� there are an awful lot of people who could be included in that �they�. |
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| Originally posted by Mach X SOURCE - MACLEANS.CA |
7 lol... garbage
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| Originally posted by Mach X SOURCE - MACLEANS.CA |
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