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Best Production Video Series of 2011

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Wow, thanks for the post. Nice.

I'm sorry but that was fucking boring. He made a few good point, but way too much repetition and it hardly moves forward at all. And listening to him loop 1 and 1 bar of a track was fucking atrocious.
Thanks for the vid, but thread title is grossly misleading.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi I'm sorry but that was fucking boring. He made a few good point, but way too much repetition and it hardly moves forward at all. And listening to him loop 1 and 1 bar of a track was fucking atrocious. Thanks for the vid, but thread title is grossly misleading.

Did you watch up to part 6?

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Originally posted by Beatflux Did you watch up to part 6?

I watched till part 3 and can tell you this is completely useless.

If you're someone who hasn't idea of what music productions is, then yes...all this could appear reasonable and intriguing.

I mean, organizing such course by tricking novices this way is something I credit this man for. (if this makes any sense in english lol)

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Originally posted by TranceElevation I watched till part 3 and can tell you this is completely useless.

You have to watch all the parts to have an opinion on it.

people pay for this ?

if you need to go to school to make technos, i mean come on. Even rock music. I mean i think the cutoff in terms of music you ould study in a formal manner is jazz. Sure The performance program at Beerklee deal in modern music but again , this school is hit and miss and the miss is mostly anything other than the performance program.

I mean when i went to school, you would have visiting lecturers like Bob Ludwig, Hancock i mean guys that you can learn by just being in the same room. I even had a class where the guest professor was Sandy Pearlman, the guy who produced that song in that skit everyone knows "more cowbell". I feel for the people that pay for these schools. They are a racket.

I've been watching Groove3's Timothy Allen - Ableton Tutorials He's awesome. He goes super indepth with all the things necessary in order to make a great track. So far this week I've spent countless hours watching his videos. They're very informative and his eqing and sidechaining tips have helped tremendously. I highly recommend any Groove3 or Synthic4te.

People watch to much of these damn videos. What happened to analyzing some inspirational material and just jamming away?

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Originally posted by EliPsE People watch to much of these damn videos. What happened to analyzing some inspirational material and just jamming away?

I don't think you watched it...he analyzes a prydz's track.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=0

Funny how people whom complain the most about free material seem to contribute the least constructive material to discussions.

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Originally posted by Beatflux Did you watch up to part 6?

No, as I said, the part where he started looping individual bars to analyze them just was too much for me. I need my learning material to be stripped of nonsense, and organized in a way that doesn't bore my ass off.

watched as i ate my lunch

I would say he is giving some bad advice at certain points, average advice that would be common sense to most the other times.

his side chaining over automation is just flat out bad advice

his concept of form making 64 beats for the dj is also bad advice. Not that a track should not be dj friendly, but unlike say in 2000, all the tracks that do well usually have some sort of melodic or motivic material that will get the attention of anyone including djs right away. The days of just a kick and hihat are done.

His hammering of how the top tracks have alot going on is also completely erroneous. The tracks that sell the most are typically the most simple in terms of number of elements. The more you add, the less impact each element has. So tracks that sell have the hook as much as possible in your face with as little as possible in the way.

Although I agree that quantizing hard is not the best way to get a track grooving, the idea of having some macro grid that spans 32 bars is ridiculous. Nobody does it. Not in pop, not in rap.... Drum patterns usually have a phrasing of 2 bars. It is just what the mind can remember in terms of rhythmic tension. ANy more is pointless.

His business advice is antiquated and well kinda sad that he has such small insight on how one can sell their music. But either have a business course or don't bother mentioning it.

again i am just shocked that people are sitting there listening. I mean a producer with 1 year of experience would be kinda pissed that this is what they are paying for. Common sense sprinkled with bad advice is not something you should pay for. This is like something i would expect for troubled youths at the YMCA.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney His hammering of how the top tracks have alot going on is also completely erroneous. The tracks that sell the most are typically the most simple in terms of number of elements. The more you add, the less impact each element has.

His point was that these tracks have lots of small subliminal changes that keep the track interesting.

Are people having trouble understanding what he's saying?

he argued both. And they are both wrong. Simplicity, the lack of subtle changes that add nothing and detract from the main idea are what people like. IT isn't that i support this, I just think that EDM commercial success is not that different from pop.

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