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2012.01.28 [SFL] Max Graham @ Gryphon

We welcome Max Graham Saturday January 28th....

I'll be handling the opening..

Link for tickets....... http://gryphon.wantickets.com/Events/98523/Gryphon-Presents-Max-Graham/

ahhhhhhhh, I wanna goooooo!!! My_baseball season starts on Sunday, pffff!

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Originally posted by bltzkrieg09 ahhhhhhhh, I wanna goooooo!!! My_baseball season starts on Sunday, pffff!

I would have gone, but I'll be in Vegas being a best man!

As I've never opened for a trancier act.....what does the trance contingent enjoy during opening sets?

Whoa!!! Max Graham!!! Nice!!!
Hella last minute but might have to ride down from Orlando to make this one. Bday present to myself lol.

Ok this event is ticketed.......I have fixed the first post.

http://gryphon.wantickets.com/Event...nts-Max-Graham/

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Originally posted by Donnie Gryphon As I've never opened for a trancier act.....what does the trance contingent enjoy during opening sets?

Tell you what I personally dont like. A safe/soft set from an opening dj which then has the crowd standing around like zombies looking at their watches. Rock that shit out is what i say! Make the whole night memorable. Its not like the crowd is gonna lose any kind of interest or anticipation for the main act. A few sing alongs for the ladies, a couple fist bangers for the dudes, a couple throwback tracks & just dont burn out the crowd. Once again, thats just me...

most likely won't be in town but would've definitely made it to this. Make sure you bring him back!

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Originally posted by FL-Addict Tell you what I personally dont like. A safe/soft set from an opening dj which then has the crowd standing around like zombies looking at their watches. Rock that shit out is what i say! Make the whole night memorable. Its not like the crowd is gonna lose any kind of interest or anticipation for the main act. A few sing alongs for the ladies, a couple fist bangers for the dudes, a couple throwback tracks & just dont burn out the crowd. Once again, thats just me...

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Originally posted by FL-Addict Tell you what I personally dont like. A safe/soft set from an opening dj which then has the crowd standing around like zombies looking at their watches. Rock that shit out is what i say! Make the whole night memorable. Its not like the crowd is gonna lose any kind of interest or anticipation for the main act. A few sing alongs for the ladies, a couple fist bangers for the dudes, a couple throwback tracks & just dont burn out the crowd. Once again, thats just me...

The opening DJ's job is to warm the crowd up and get them on the dance floor. Being an opening DJ and doing it PROPERLY is a very hard thing that many have not grasped. You NEVER try to "out shine" the headliner, there have been to many cases of opening DJ's playing their set at (for example) 128 bpm when the DJ they are opening for usually plays at 124 bpm. I understand that this is your opinion but speaking from many years of experience opening for many larger names I know that your idea of will not get you any praise from the person playing after you. I look at this from a professional angle and not from someone that does it just for the paycheck there is a difference.

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Originally posted by BritishLizard The opening DJ's job is to warm the crowd up and get them on the dance floor. Being an opening DJ and doing it PROPERLY is a very hard thing that many have not grasped. You NEVER try to "out shine" the headliner, there have been to many cases of opening DJ's playing their set at (for example) 128 bpm when the DJ they are opening for usually plays at 124 bpm. I understand that this is your opinion but speaking from many years of experience opening for many larger names I know that your idea of will not get you any praise from the person playing after you. I look at this from a professional angle and not from someone that does it just for the paycheck there is a difference.

Well put. Thanks BritishLizard for first hand knowledge. As for not showing out the headliner, that's what i meant by not burning out the crowd. Keep it live but know your boundries. I was speaking on the view from the other side of the booth & from boring atmospheres I've encountered from 10PM-1230am after paying for a full night of entertainment. It's well known the opener must know & play his role as the "in the mean time setup man" but its a shame that many have not perfected the art as you mentioned.

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Originally posted by BritishLizard The opening DJ's job is to warm the crowd up and get them on the dance floor. Being an opening DJ and doing it PROPERLY is a very hard thing that many have not grasped. You NEVER try to "out shine" the headliner, there have been to many cases of opening DJ's playing their set at (for example) 128 bpm when the DJ they are opening for usually plays at 124 bpm. I understand that this is your opinion but speaking from many years of experience opening for many larger names I know that your idea of will not get you any praise from the person playing after you. I look at this from a professional angle and not from someone that does it just for the paycheck there is a difference.

Agree with this completely.

It will be a cold day in hell that I would see 124bpm in an opening but obiviously understand that trance is a bit quicker so may have to pick it up a touch.

Was mainly asking to see what genre people enjoy before trance acts, as I play a lot of out there tunes with a Hot Creations, Crosstown twist to my sound.

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Originally posted by Donnie Gryphon Agree with this completely. It will be a cold day in hell that I would see 124bpm in an opening but obiviously understand that trance is a bit quicker so may have to pick it up a touch. Was mainly asking to see what genre people enjoy before trance acts, as I play a lot of out there tunes with a Hot Creations, Crosstown twist to my sound.

The BPM numbers were used just as examples mate. The opening DJ should know what he/she needs to do to compliment the main act style and tempo wise.

progressive and prog house usually work for me

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Originally posted by hiram progressive and prog house usually work for me

and that's all I was looking for. That was sort of the plan anyways but thank you!

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Originally posted by hiram progressive and prog house usually work for me

What they call Progressive and Progressive House these days is shit IMO. Not sure how it got shifted in the span of 4-5 years but it is not Progressive House any more as far as I am concerned which is unfortunate. That was my main style in the 00's now the music with all the no talent cheesy sounds is called Progressive House. I would like to think that Beatport had a bit to do with it once they started to place those types of tracks under that genre.

beatport sucks for that

hmm

Imagine your'e playing alone all night. Play would you would play for the first two hours whether you're stopping after two hours or after eight hours. If you were playing all night you would pace yourself, not over do it, not wear people out, save the bombs for later on in the night. So play like that as it's always worked for me when i've opened for others and i've found it to be a pretty safe rule that works. It's when dj's start to think that they are playing a two hour set and not two of eight that it becomes a problem

unless it's a festival with lots of dj's doing short sets or ASOT or something where everyone is booked to shine on their own then the above concept goes out the window and everyone just rocks their set.


To be more specific i agree with a lot of posters, Don't be boring, light builds to get people into it, some vocals for sure but don't bang it out, no massive drum rolls etc. But don't do this on account of the dj after you, do it on account of the time of the night and the length of the night just as if you were playing alone all night (see point one)

Another example is would you play a track you would normally play at the end of the night at midnight? no of course not but lots of dj's do as they think the night ends when they end and will drop some beatport #1 that would be must better suited 4 hours later.

Again this is not about the dj after you, it's about the crowd and the night in this specific type of two dj, headliner with a long set, opener plays to warm up type situation.

you guys agree with this? i'm open for discussion if not.
Maxg

^^^ Hi MaxG

oh snaps welcome to FLTA Max

hi

haven't posted in years but searched "max graham gryphon" on google and this came up first so thought i would have some input.

Personally i usually tell dj's to do their thing. I would rather have the opener be happy and having fun that feeling like he has to cater to where i want to start. I've been doing this long enough to be able to start with tech house at 126 and build into trance or 130 progessive (now called trance but as some of the posters above mentioned will always be progressive to me) so i'm cool either way.

Just don't play the beatport #1 banger or "above and beyond - sun and moon" at 11:55 as it's just not the right time

IF i could choose anything before me personally? i would say chunky groovy house with some light builds to build anticipation. Sexy shit for when people are finding their spots, getting their drinks and slowly filling up the dancefloor. Basically what i would play if i was alone all night

that being said i can't fucking wait for a four hour set... going to record it too.

MaxG

^^^Send the link our way for the TA's who couldn't make your awesome set. Please Thanks

This rocks your came on TA to comment

sweet! D-Day

Molly and I will be there ;D

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Originally posted by Roweazie sweet! D-Day Molly and I will be there ;D

Balla holla

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Originally posted by max graham =that being said i can't fucking wait for a four hour set... going to record it too. MaxG

Now I don't feel so bad for missing it... =P

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