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Playing live with another DJ and u have 1 of their tracks....

Is it generally ok to play a track that another DJ produced who is playing that same night?

or should it not be played and assume that the DJ will be playing his/her own track and that the audience only wants to hear it once in one night?

what about remixes and other versions of it?

Has anyone ever played an entire >2 hour set using just one track and doing all kinds of cool dope things to it? Sometimes I just really like a track! A LOTS!

if this a serious question, I wouldn't hire you.

Nope. Samething for remixes.

I really want to delete this thread. A LOTS!

i would smack you if you play the track people came to listen

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos i would smack you if you play the track people came to listen

I'd let them play the track, nod and smile at them politely. Then while they're facing the crowd I'd start to piss on the back of their trousers.

Be deadly if the crowd started boooing if that actually happened. Although the monkeys that they are they probably wouldn't have a clue.

If you did this to me I would buy you a Zima.

faux pas

even if this has to be some kind of troll thread due to it's massive stupidity, it is surprising how many times I've seen this question. There are thousands upon thousands of other producers, with so many tracks to pick from, you would figure you could wait until next time to play tracks from the headliner.

That one track for 2 hours actually kind of happens. Some techno guys sometimes play a constant loop of low noise in the background of their sets for effect, and when they mess up slightly they can use this to hide the flaws.

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Originally posted by zyklon-jay even if this has to be some kind of troll thread due to it's massive stupidity.

I'm going to go right against the grain here.

Never say never.


I think it could be a nice nod IF you know they aren't going to play that tune and it's not an obvious one of their tunes. Basically make sure you're not either tune-blocking them or riding on their success.

It's certainly dangerous territory, because you never know what they might have planned. But say you've got an old track of theirs which will fit into your set, but is quite a different style from what they play now - maybe a lesser known remix - and the vast majority of the dancefloor won't recognise as one of theirs... why not?

Of course if they're in the club by the time you're playing you can (and probably should) ask them and see if they mind. Although as the replies above show, it is often considered a proper DJ booth faux pas, so depending on who it is be prepared that they might think you're a **** for even considering it.

I can think of some artists who I'm sure wouldn't mind and might even feel slightly honoured if you played one of their older tracks in a set, particularly if you were playing later than them.

Of course If you're playing after them, you'll already know what they have/haven't played and they may well have left the club by the time you play it!

closing would not be as bad, I'll give you that point.

I just happen to view the best openers to be the guys that will build a slow set consisting of quirky records from all eras to lead into peak time and moves up slowly in tempo and groove towards peak time. Since the headliner is essentially the peak time act, I would just say away. A good opening dj can take you on a much more educational and complex musical journey with that slot.., often more so than a headliner because he is without the contstraints of having to play what people expect, and just banging it out.

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Originally posted by zyklon-jay I just happen to view the best openers to be the guys that will build a slow set consisting of quirky records from all eras to lead into peak time and moves up slowly in tempo and groove towards peak time. Since the headliner is essentially the peak time act, I would just say away. A good opening dj can take you on a much more educational and complex musical journey with that slot.., often more so than a headliner because he is without the contstraints of having to play what people expect, and just banging it out.

Totally agree, the chances are any tracks by the headliner won't fit very well into another set, particularly one preceding them as they still need to be able to take it up a notch for their set.

But that said, some artists have INCREDIBLY extensive back catalogues, so they might even have some proper 1st set stuff. Always safer to steer clear of course, but I don't like people laying down hard and fast rules

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Originally posted by zyklon-jay closing would not be as bad, I'll give you that point. I just happen to view the best openers to be the guys that will build a slow set consisting of quirky records from all eras to lead into peak time and moves up slowly in tempo and groove towards peak time. Since the headliner is essentially the peak time act, I would just say away. A good opening dj can take you on a much more educational and complex musical journey with that slot.., often more so than a headliner because he is without the contstraints of having to play what people expect, and just banging it out.

+1


That one track for 2 hour comment, Luciano does it to an an extent. But 1 track for 2 hours is more along the lines of 1 track (bassline) up to 10-15 min. Re-introduced later on in the set again for a 10min block and the same thing occurring with a few more 'samples' he's decided to loop from various tracks. It works quite well in my opinion, especially on a night out when you might not be as prone to picking out the times he/she's looping the same thing over and over.

Nothing worse than having a bunch of chin strokers on the dance floor, but that's for another thread altogether.

Also, at least the dj booth is hungry

Even if a troll posts a wonky question we'll all make/take something and blend it into our own question which then nicely creates a topic for us to discuss ha..

I haven't followed him for a long time nor even know if he is still doing it anymore, but if you want to learn how to open properly I would highly suggest seeing Danny Howells during his marathon sets. I can remember many years back seeing him play 13+ hour sets from start to finish. You walk into an almost empty club and the headliner is essentially warming up. He plays slow and skillfully for so long that all of a sudden when he decides it's peak time the place starts going crazy without the punters realizing that the skull fuck time is here. A veritable collection of tracks spanning 20 years, nice and slow, unremarkable in themselves, but when built on well creates something I can only describe as that moment when you are about to go down on a roller coaster and your heart feels like it is in your throat. so smooth and well executed that even the hardest chin stroker has to appreciate the artistry behind the planning and execution.

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Originally posted by zyklon-jay I haven't followed him for a long time nor even know if he is still doing it anymore, but if you want to learn how to open properly I would highly suggest seeing Danny Howells during his marathon sets. I can remember many years back seeing him play 13+ hour sets from start to finish. You walk into an almost empty club and the headliner is essentially warming up. He plays slow and skillfully for so long that all of a sudden when he decides it's peak time the place starts going crazy without the punters realizing that the skull fuck time is here. A veritable collection of tracks spanning 20 years, nice and slow, unremarkable in themselves, but when built on well creates something I can only describe as that moment when you are about to go down on a roller coaster and your heart feels like it is in your throat. so smooth and well executed that even the hardest chin stroker has to appreciate the artistry behind the planning and execution.

Howells for sure...also see Danny Tenaglia

while not always his biggest fan, in 02 or 03 I saw tenaglia play for 20 hours straight... I know he played longer but I had to go home. pretty insane, but the drugs were also better then

What if I had made a remix of one of the headliners songs. Would it be kosher to play that?

you have plenty chances to do it, if you are playing after him might not be a bad idea though, specially because people will recognize the track and would search for that remix when they come back home.

I can recall an opening DJ (Greg Gow, whom I thought would know better) dropped this 15 mins before Joris took the stage for his first ever Toronto appearance 3 years ago. Voorn was none too pleased.



Joris played it as well a couple hours into his own set.

Really? I'm surprised, I thought Greg Gow was a veteran of the scene, this sort of thing should be far below him. He should have known that track is a staple of Joris Voorn's sets. Wow that's pretty shocking.

yeah, man. I was just as surprised myself.

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