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Anybody using Wavelab Elements 7?

I want a simpler and cheaper alternative to Sound Forge for quick audio editing/mastering jobs that also is a 64-bit app (I'm sick of waiting for Sony to get their asses in gear). Unfortunately, there is no demo for Elements 7 (demo is for full version of Wavelab only) and I'm wondering how flexible the UI is in terms of creating your own layouts, dual-monitor support, etc. I don't see any of this mentioned on the website. Also, does Elements have the Soundcloud uploading capability that the full version has as of the most recent 7.2 release?

if you need a freeware sound recorder this app will do the job http://www.wavosaur.com/

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Originally posted by stewart.m if you need a freeware sound recorder this app will do the job http://www.wavosaur.com/

Thanks, but I'm not looking for other options, just want to know how configurable WE7 is.

bias peak?

nvm mac only i guess

No, seriously guys, I am very familiar with all the wav editor options out there and I'm not looking for other suggestions. I have very specific reasons for considering Wavelab and just want to know if Wavelab Elements 7 lets me customize layouts, make full use of my two monitors, etc.

Have you tried Audacity?

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Originally posted by meriter Have you tried Audacity?

Of course, who hasn't?

ftp://ftp.steinberg.net/Download/Wa...ements-en-7.pdf

for 99$ i think it is good. Tried it once having wavelab full and did not notice any features at that given time that were not there but it was just basic editing.

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Originally posted by Beatflux ftp://ftp.steinberg.net/Download/Wa...ements-en-7.pdf

Yeah, I should have mentioned that I checked that already, but it doesn't directly answer my questions. The manual goes into some detail about configuration, docking, etc., but in typical Steinberg fashion, doesn't provide enough detail to determine if it's the same as the full version or not.

Regardless, I got some more info from another source and it looks like I'll probably be going with the Elements version.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney for 99$ i think it is good. Tried it once having wavelab full and did not notice any features at that given time that were not there but it was just basic editing.

Cool, thanks! I'll give it a go and, if it sucks, I'll upgrade to the full version. I had the full verions (Wavelab 6) years ago, sold it for SF9, and now I regret it.

really ? soundforge is way better.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney really ? soundforge is way better.

There are a lot of things that I love about SF, but I like Wavelab's layout and workflow much better (probably because that's the first audio editor I owned), and its metering. SF's metering is so lame that I've had to resort to 3rd party plugins, when I should have just spent that money on Wavelab instead. I also have always had problems with SF not remembering my custom layouts, funky window-resizing bugs, and I really hate the plugin chainer approach. Sony doesn't seem to keen on addressing these issues or putting out timely updates. And, of course, the big one:

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Is it true 64 bit? Sound Forge Pro 10 does support installation on a 64-bit operating system like Windows Vista or Windows 7 64-bit, however it is a 32-bit application and will function in 32-bit mode. Any plans to release a 64 bit version of Sound Forge? At this time, Sound Forge Pro is supported within 64-bit operating systems and will function as a 32-bit application in a 64-bit environment. However, we have not announced any plans regarding Sound Forge Pro becoming a 64-bit native application.

I'm sure you've all been on pins and needles wondering what my final decision was. I found a guy on KVR who was looking to trade his full version of Wavelab 7 for my Sound Forge 10, so the deal has been done and Wavelab is now happily residing on my computer once again. I love a happy ending. Oh, and this spectral editor is so kickass! I'm glad I didn't settle for the Elements version.

Out of interest what can you do in a standalone editor that can't be accomplished just as easily (and arguably more conveniently) in DAW?

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Originally posted by tehlord Out of interest what can you do in a standalone editor that can't be accomplished just as easily (and arguably more conveniently) in DAW?

More precise surgery, ranging from filtering/EQ'ing to truncating. I used CoolEdit Pro a while back and there were gizmos in that program I still wish I had access to, now.

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Originally posted by tehlord Out of interest what can you do in a standalone editor that can't be accomplished just as easily (and arguably more conveniently) in DAW?

Primarily the deeper editing features and better visual monitoring tools, specialized file management and CD creation tools, etc. But, it's not a necessity AFAIC - it's really mostly a workflow thing.

That said, the spectrum editor that I mentioned above is really cool and I'm sure I will use it a lot for cleaning up audio recordings, de-essing, etc. I just tried it out on a sample that had a nice mic stand rumble while the vocalist was singing and was able to make it almost inaudible while preserving the vocals. I've never seen anything equivalent to this in a linear DAW. Check it out:

Bugger, this is my problem, but at least on PC you have a choice of several good wave editors.

That's the one thing I've been missing all this time, since I switched to mac; wavelab.

Bias Peak is buggy as shit, audacity is fairly buggy and the interface/workflow is horrid, and dsp quattro just doesn't have the advanced functions when you really want to get surgical/deep in editing. Cooledit/Adobe Audition was actually pretty great too and that noise analysis & phase reversal cleaning function was a lifesaver back when i worked in radio with 30 min deadlines.

I may end up buying elements but I worried that I'll miss a lot from having owned the full version back in PC land.

I was going as far as to get a crack of wavelab 7 mac (I know, I know - fuck off, it's just to demo it as steinberg in their infinite wisdom doesn't let you demo anything without a shitty dongle) but there isn't even a working crack out there.

Dave, do you know of any side by side function comparisons of elements to full?

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Originally posted by cryophonik

That's scary cool.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Dave, do you know of any side by side function comparisons of elements to full?

Yeah, right here:

http://www.steinberg.net/en/product...son.html#c61312

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Originally posted by EddieZilker That's scary cool.

It is, and it works just as advertised.

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Originally posted by cryophonik Yeah, right here: http://www.steinberg.net/en/product...son.html#c61312

Cheers mate.

So as usual, all the really cool stuff is in the full version

I've got both WL7 and WL7 LE
the spectrum editor is not in LE

There is a feature comparisson chart on steinberg.net

Interesting stuff, but it's not something i'd really need and would just sit there taking up more 'learn me' space I no longer have


I also noticed a lot of background hum in that Wavelab video

LE is good on laptops as you don't need the Elicenser
I use the Full version on my main DAW, since it caters my outboard chain with external FX

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